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There already are red-teams looking for evidence against the main consensus on the climate. Let me explain why you've never heard from them. Let's start by wha
by ocschwar 10y ago
There already are red-teams looking for evidence against the main consensus on the climate. Let me explain why you've never heard from them.
Let's start by what climate scientists actually do. Very few of them actually gather any of their own data. Some get a grant here or there to go on a trip to Greenland or Antarctica, or to design and launch their own satellite, but they are few in number. And generally while they get first dibs on their raw data, it all gets public at a set pace.
What climate scientists mostly do is 1. download raw data from the diverse array of sources available, 2. run models with them, using C/C++, Fortran and MPI, 3. distill what they find with Matlab and R, and finally 4. produce papers.
That's it. If you've experience with analyzing data in Matlab/R/Numpy, with using queue-based computer resources or AWS, you too can be a climate scientist. Just apply your knowledge to this narrow field. Done. The only difference between you and climate scientists is they're paid to do it full time, with an allowance for buying Beowulf clusters or running up a tab on other people's.
Observe that the right wing think-tank archipelago around Northern Virgina and DC has thousands, literally thousands, of people with statistics Phds, and money for as much playtime on AWS as they want. Climatology is a highly accessible field to anyone who's every pulled an all nighter with Matlab. And the right wing sponsors of the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation, Cato, et cetera, would love, love, to find serious evidence against the greenhouse effect.
So why haven't they ever stepped forward with anything?
Because there isn't anything out there.
Why has the anti-AGW community ever produced anything that is at or above the dignity of a middle schooler?
Because middle school taunts is all they have.
- caminante 10y agoCheck the sibling comment [0] in this thread. There are known climate consensus red teams. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13989422 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13989422
- ocschwar 10y agoYou and I would consider Berkeley Earth to be a "red team." But for right wing politicians, a "red team" either produces evidence against AGW or stays silent.