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True, but in the article, both Partovi and Ruffin cite examples of clients who "claim they own a house, or that a relative will show up any day now", despite be
by got2surf 10y ago
True, but in the article, both Partovi and Ruffin cite examples of clients who "claim they own a house, or that a relative will show up any day now", despite being injured/homeless/exposed.
To me at least, it seems logical that a reasonable person would choose shelter over being outdoors and injured for 15 years. Making that choice is their right, but let's address their mental health problems first to give them the autonomy to make that choice.
- csours 10y agoMentally healthy people lie to themselves all the time too. Homeless mentally ill people be lying to save face, or that me be at least a component of what they are saying. If you spend enough time with them, you may get a lucid moment where they can be honest with themselves and you; but it is very time consuming to get there.
- galdosdi 10y agoYes, but you and the grandparent commenter seem to treat it as black and white -- either they are sane, or ALL logic has gone out the window. Many (most?) actual mentally ill are not like that (spoken from first and secondhand experience) -- SOME logic has gone out the window, and there is room to "negotiate" or "convince" in alternate ways. But that requires getting to know them, caring, spending enough time to earn some trust and understand more what kind of entreaty would most appeal to them. A good comparison is a young child (or an elderly person slowly getting senile)! They often believe silly things, but it's not all or nothing. It's possible to "reason" with them, but it takes more effort, time, and care, that's all.
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