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There are commercially-available routers which support running all traffic through a VPN. That should handle all the devices in your house.

icebraining 10y ago
A VPN doesn't actually provide more privacy, it just changes who can snoop on your data.
- baumandm 10y ago
  Privacy isn't an either/or. That's like saying closing your window curtains doesn't give you more privacy, because your phone might be wiretapped.
  - icebraining 10y ago
    I don't agree with that analogy. The VPN takes away the ISP's snooping abilities, but gives snooping abilities to another company that wouldn't otherwise have it.
- Crespyl 10y ago
  You're right, of course, but a VPN at least lets you make sure that the service that can snoop on your data doesn't want to snoop on your data, because they know you'll just leave them for another, more privacy conscious, provider if they do. VPN providers have incentive to compete with each other and commitment to user privacy is an important selling point. ISPs have zero commitment to privacy and almost no reason to compete since users have no choice.
  - icebraining 10y ago
    You're right, of course, but a VPN at least lets you make sure that the service that can snoop on your data doesn't want to snoop on your data, because they know you'll just leave them for another, more privacy conscious, provider if they do. Only if you can tell that they're doing so. If they create two companies with no apparent connections, how would you know that VPN company A was selling your data through Marketing company B?
    - state_less 10y ago
      We are now getting pretty far down the rabbit hole. Is this possible in theory, if your packets go in all directions (IPs) encrypted, not sure how you reassemble, but in theory, would the information then be whitewashed? I guess I'm asking, is it possible in principle, can you leak no information (including metadata) from IPv4?
andrei_says_ 10y ago
Netflix for example does not work over vpn so the router would have to have a way to manage exceptions.

icebraining 10y ago

A VPN doesn't actually provide more privacy, it just changes who can snoop on your data.

baumandm 10y ago
Privacy isn't an either/or. That's like saying closing your window curtains doesn't give you more privacy, because your phone might be wiretapped.
- icebraining 10y ago
  I don't agree with that analogy. The VPN takes away the ISP's snooping abilities, but gives snooping abilities to another company that wouldn't otherwise have it.
Crespyl 10y ago
You're right, of course, but a VPN at least lets you make sure that the service that can snoop on your data doesn't want to snoop on your data, because they know you'll just leave them for another, more privacy conscious, provider if they do. VPN providers have incentive to compete with each other and commitment to user privacy is an important selling point. ISPs have zero commitment to privacy and almost no reason to compete since users have no choice.
- icebraining 10y ago
  You're right, of course, but a VPN at least lets you make sure that the service that can snoop on your data doesn't want to snoop on your data, because they know you'll just leave them for another, more privacy conscious, provider if they do. Only if you can tell that they're doing so. If they create two companies with no apparent connections, how would you know that VPN company A was selling your data through Marketing company B?
  - state_less 10y ago
    We are now getting pretty far down the rabbit hole. Is this possible in theory, if your packets go in all directions (IPs) encrypted, not sure how you reassemble, but in theory, would the information then be whitewashed? I guess I'm asking, is it possible in principle, can you leak no information (including metadata) from IPv4?

andrei_says_ 10y ago

Netflix for example does not work over vpn so the router would have to have a way to manage exceptions.