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> In 2016, the F.C.C., which I led as chairman under President Barack Obama, extended those same protections to the internet. Oh how nice of Tom Wheeler to pla

by 0xfeba 10y ago

> In 2016, the F.C.C., which I led as chairman under President Barack Obama, extended those same protections to the internet. Oh how nice of Tom Wheeler to play the good-guy now. It took a lot of public outcry for him to change his tune about Net Neutrality.

chrisrhoden 10y ago
He came around, and then was a reasonably good champion. Let's live in a world where people aren't permanently branded with temporary positions.
- 0xfeba 10y ago
  I suppose you're right. But I will still remain suspicious of a former lobbyist turned head of FCC turned NN champion.
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sbov 10y ago
We need to laud people who change their positions for the better, not continue to becry them. It's harder for people to admit they are wrong than be right in the first place.
tzs 10y ago
> Oh how nice of Tom Wheeler to play the good-guy now. It took a lot of public outcry for him to change his tune about Net Neutrality. That's wrong. He was for net neutrality from day one at the FCC. You are probably thinking of the first net neutrality rule he proposed, which would have allowed for paid fast lanes, and interpreting that as somehow not being for net neutrality. When he proposed that rule that was about the strongest net neutrality rule possible without reclassifying ISPs as common carriers. Reclassification was a very risky approach, with probably at least an order of magnitude more chance of not surviving. He did state that he was open to that approach, if the comments on the first proposal indicated that there was enough support for reclassification.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > You are probably thinking of the first net neutrality rule he proposed, which would have allowed for paid fast lanes That was the second; the first he got passed did not, but it was struck down by the courts for exceeding the power the FCC had without Title II reclassification. The draft of the replacement might have allowed paid prioritization (it was clearly not intended to, but it was limited because it attempted to stay within the boundaries of what would pass muster without Title II reclassification.) The final replacement order opted for Title reclassification, and was not only stronger than the draft, but stronger in many ways that the 2010 order it replaced. Wheeler was always on the side of net neutrality, and in fact his actions in favor of it are one of the main reasons the issue became well known.
  - tzs 10y ago
    The one that got struck down was passed before Wheeler was on the FCC.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      Yeah, I was somehow projecting his chairmanship back to beginning of the 3/5 partisan pro/anti-neutrality split.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> Oh how nice of Tom Wheeler to play the good-guy now. It took a lot of public outcry for him to change his tune about Net Neutrality. Tom Wheeler was the driving force behind all of the FCC net neutrality efforts, including early case-by-case actions, the 2010 Open Internet Order and the 2015 Open Internet Order. The idea that he was somehow an opponent of net neutrality mostly comes from ab unfair set of hit pieces in popular outlets (including, notably, Jon Oliver's Last Week Tonight) based around some groups (legitimate) concerns that the first public draft of the 2015 order (written to address the court decision striking down the 2010 order) was an insufficiently strong instrument.

by 0xfeba 10y ago

chrisrhoden 10y ago

He came around, and then was a reasonably good champion. Let's live in a world where people aren't permanently branded with temporary positions.

0xfeba 10y ago
I suppose you're right. But I will still remain suspicious of a former lobbyist turned head of FCC turned NN champion.

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sbov 10y ago

We need to laud people who change their positions for the better, not continue to becry them. It's harder for people to admit they are wrong than be right in the first place.

tzs 10y ago

> Oh how nice of Tom Wheeler to play the good-guy now. It took a lot of public outcry for him to change his tune about Net Neutrality. That's wrong. He was for net neutrality from day one at the FCC. You are probably thinking of the first net neutrality rule he proposed, which would have allowed for paid fast lanes, and interpreting that as somehow not being for net neutrality. When he proposed that rule that was about the strongest net neutrality rule possible without reclassifying ISPs as common carriers. Reclassification was a very risky approach, with probably at least an order of magnitude more chance of not surviving. He did state that he was open to that approach, if the comments on the first proposal indicated that there was enough support for reclassification.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> You are probably thinking of the first net neutrality rule he proposed, which would have allowed for paid fast lanes That was the second; the first he got passed did not, but it was struck down by the courts for exceeding the power the FCC had without Title II reclassification. The draft of the replacement might have allowed paid prioritization (it was clearly not intended to, but it was limited because it attempted to stay within the boundaries of what would pass muster without Title II reclassification.) The final replacement order opted for Title reclassification, and was not only stronger than the draft, but stronger in many ways that the 2010 order it replaced. Wheeler was always on the side of net neutrality, and in fact his actions in favor of it are one of the main reasons the issue became well known.
- tzs 10y ago
  The one that got struck down was passed before Wheeler was on the FCC.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    Yeah, I was somehow projecting his chairmanship back to beginning of the 3/5 partisan pro/anti-neutrality split.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> Oh how nice of Tom Wheeler to play the good-guy now. It took a lot of public outcry for him to change his tune about Net Neutrality. Tom Wheeler was the driving force behind all of the FCC net neutrality efforts, including early case-by-case actions, the 2010 Open Internet Order and the 2015 Open Internet Order. The idea that he was somehow an opponent of net neutrality mostly comes from ab unfair set of hit pieces in popular outlets (including, notably, Jon Oliver's Last Week Tonight) based around some groups (legitimate) concerns that the first public draft of the 2015 order (written to address the court decision striking down the 2010 order) was an insufficiently strong instrument.