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I've read similar complaints to this before, yet when I look at the documentation for WebExtensions it seems like there's plenty of scope to do what's wanted.

by philbo 10y ago

I've read similar complaints to this before, yet when I look at the documentation for WebExtensions it seems like there's plenty of scope to do what's wanted. In this case, what is wrong with the history [1] and omnibox [2] APIs? [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/history https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/AP... [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/omnibox https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/AP...

kuschku 10y ago
I don’t want to expand on the history the browser provides. I want to completely replace every bit. I want to be the history API. That’s the problem. I don’t want to glue a new frontend on top of what exists, I want to completely replace every history API the browser provides, and replace it with my own. I, as extension dev, can’t remove the history API’s implementation, and build my own implementation. I can’t change what backend the browser’s history UI uses, or replace that UI. I can’t hijack the history button in the menu, or replace it. With Firefox, today, with lots of hackery, I can get pretty close. But I still can’t fully get there. With the new WebExtensions, I can only add UI – but not replace UI, or add backend functionality, or replace backend functionality.
- nsgi 10y ago
  You can definitely do that for Chrome extensions, not sure about Firefox. https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/override https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/override This would be sufficient to create the type of feature described in the article. Not sure why you'd want to replace the backend, this could break other extensions. Both WebExtensions and Chrome extensions allow changing/deleting browser history items, which should enable most things extensions would want to do.
  - kuschku 10y ago
    > Not sure why you'd want to replace the backend, this could break other extensions. Both WebExtensions and Chrome extensions allow changing/deleting browser history items, which should enable most things extensions would want to do. As I said above, the whole point is to do my own history tracking system, which stores history via a sync system of my own, in a server of my own. And loads it from there, too. The user has a webinterface, mobile interface, app integration with browsers, etc. You can easily do fulltext search of all sites you’ve ever visited, etc. "Breaking" other extensions is intentional – I want to replace the backend in which they search. I want to provide far more than what any of these browsers provide, although Vivaldi is still the closest yet.

by philbo 10y ago

kuschku 10y ago

I don’t want to expand on the history the browser provides. I want to completely replace every bit. I want to be the history API. That’s the problem. I don’t want to glue a new frontend on top of what exists, I want to completely replace every history API the browser provides, and replace it with my own. I, as extension dev, can’t remove the history API’s implementation, and build my own implementation. I can’t change what backend the browser’s history UI uses, or replace that UI. I can’t hijack the history button in the menu, or replace it. With Firefox, today, with lots of hackery, I can get pretty close. But I still can’t fully get there. With the new WebExtensions, I can only add UI – but not replace UI, or add backend functionality, or replace backend functionality.

nsgi 10y ago
You can definitely do that for Chrome extensions, not sure about Firefox. https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/override https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/override This would be sufficient to create the type of feature described in the article. Not sure why you'd want to replace the backend, this could break other extensions. Both WebExtensions and Chrome extensions allow changing/deleting browser history items, which should enable most things extensions would want to do.
- kuschku 10y ago
  > Not sure why you'd want to replace the backend, this could break other extensions. Both WebExtensions and Chrome extensions allow changing/deleting browser history items, which should enable most things extensions would want to do. As I said above, the whole point is to do my own history tracking system, which stores history via a sync system of my own, in a server of my own. And loads it from there, too. The user has a webinterface, mobile interface, app integration with browsers, etc. You can easily do fulltext search of all sites you’ve ever visited, etc. "Breaking" other extensions is intentional – I want to replace the backend in which they search. I want to provide far more than what any of these browsers provide, although Vivaldi is still the closest yet.