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As an "alternative browser" I prefer Brave. It seems to load tabs the fastest, even faster than Opera with its own native ad-blocking. I used to like Opera befo
by mtgx 10y ago
As an "alternative browser" I prefer Brave. It seems to load tabs the fastest, even faster than Opera with its own native ad-blocking. I used to like Opera before, but I stopped using it when it was bought by that Chinese group, and after seeing what they did to Opera Max, and app I found essential for saving data roaming costs. But they pretty much killed its usefulness when they started pushing their ads through it all the time.
https://brave.com/ https://brave.com/
- balladeer 10y agoI wish http://midori-browser.org http://midori-browser.org would run on macOS natively. This is one app that I miss from my few months with (unstable) Elementary OS. Clean, simple, light, very functional.
- sspiff 10y agoI second Brave! It's pretty fast, they have some smart security people on board to prevent them from making dumb mistakes (though that doesn't mean there can't be security flaws, obviously). Best of all, it's open source: https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/blob/master/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/blob/master/LICENSE....
- Sir_Cmpwn 10y agoBrave is awful. It removes ads on websites and replaces them with their own ads, which is incredibly unethical. Please, please don't use it.
- jpttsn 10y agoIt's about as unethical as removing the packaging from groceries and serving them on your own plates.
- Sir_Cmpwn 10y agoWhat?
- lucideer 10y agoFalse equivalent. Using your analogical line of reasoning, the equivalent would be stealing the groceries from a supermarket and replacing them with your own. I don't think Brave's proposed (but apparently never implemented) ad-replacement was quite this bad, but analogies are never very accurate.
- jpttsn 10y agoI like my analogy. I buy the food (content) and get the branded packaging (ads) I then serve the same food, replacing the branded packaging with my own plates. My dinner guests will give me credit for the plates, instead of giving eyeballs to the original branded packaging.
- lucideer 10y agoHonestly, I need to retract my above comment completely. You're absolutely right. The fact it took a second explanation/clarification is a pretty good insight into how accepting we've become of advertising as a thing tbh.
- literallycancer 10y agoYou know what's unethical? Ads. So replacing one pile of crap with another, well, can't say it changes that much.
- ikurei 10y agoI've used it briefly on desktop, and use it daily on my phone. Can you please share more info on this? Are you refering to this https://brave.com/about_ad_replacement.html https://brave.com/about_ad_replacement.html? Are they already doing this, or are these just plans? It's my understanding that they replace them with ads from their own network, but revenue still goes to the publisher.
- Sir_Cmpwn 10y agoThe revenue only goes to the publisher if the publisher goes through Brave. How do you think Brave pays publishers? It's not magic. The answer is most publishers don't get paid.
- ikurei 10y agoUh, yeah, that's worrisome. I'm guessing ad networks themselves could also go to Brave, if Brave gets enough users... You're right that this is "problematic", but your initial description of "Brave replacing ads with their own", while technically correct, leaves out any subtlety. They might me misguided, but this doesn't looks as malicious...
- sequence7 10y agoNo it doesn't, they proposed a 3rd party ad replacement back in 2016 it wasn't popular so it never happened. Please stop repeating this. Brave blocks ads by default it does not replace them.
- Sir_Cmpwn 10y agoShit, I'm sorry. Of course I don't use a browser that announced plans like that, so I'm not really up to date on it. My mistake.
- csharp 10y agoThis isn't actually true. Brave intends to do this at some point with user opt-in. But currently it just blocks all 3rd party ads, HTTPSE, finger print protection, and is OS. Additionally, ad-replacement will be opt-in to allow people to support content providers with anonymous financial support. Edit: formatting
- aapusaam 10y agoI wanted to give it a try on my second laptop running 32-bit Ubuntu. However it looks like they dont support 32 bit Linux machines. SAD!