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As someone who recently discovered HN as an alternative to digg/reddit I am thankful as well. Things I love: 1) People downvote trolling and negative/witty com
by bdickason 16y ago
As someone who recently discovered HN as an alternative to digg/reddit I am thankful as well.
Things I love:
1) People downvote trolling and negative/witty comments
2) The interface gets out of your way
3) It updates constantly
4) The content is exactly what I'm looking for... and exactly what I couldn't find anywhere else
5) People are genuinely here to help. I am eagerly anticipating launching my startup so I can post an "Ask HN: Review my launch" here!
Ok I wanted it to be 'three things I like' but it turned into 5 :) Thanks to Paul and the community!
- gte910h 16y agoYeah, but they need to make votes non permanent. It's a crapshoot if you'll hit the up or down arrow on a mobile device or iPad when you try to rate stuff.
- jokermatt999 16y agoI can see why they are permanent; it makes your votes feel like they mean something. But please, can we at least get an allotted number of "vote revokes" per week or something? I agree, it's too easy to misclick on an arrow on a touchscreen, and there's nothing that can be done.
- alanh 16y agoBetter & simpler solution: Bigger buttons on touchscreen devices, preventing mis-clicks in the first place
- bdickason 16y agoThis is definitely the answer :)
- gte910h 16y agoOr just use links instead of arrows: 4 points by alanh 18 minutes ago | link | parent | flag | upvote | downvote
- tezza 16y agoI've often thought the same. This should be easy as a greasemonkey script to save other people having to make changes to support it. --------------- EDIT: Out of curiosity I made up a javascript bookmarklet that seems to do the trick... upsize all the page's upvotes to 30x30 javascript:{im=document.images;iml=im.length;for(i=0;i<iml;i++) {if(im[i].src=="http://ycombinator.com/images/grayarrow.gif"){im[i].width="30";im[i].height="30" } } alert("Done"); void(null);} Cut and paste that into your browser URL bar, or bookmark etc. It's easy to validate by eye, for the worried
- gte910h 16y agoThe issue is that it doesn't work on MOBILE devices, i.e. things without greasemonkey.
- lotharbot 16y agoEven better solution: separate the up and down arrows: [up] 7 points [down] by alanh 35 minutes ago | link | parent | flag
- tiffani 16y agoOn the iPad or iPhone, just zoom in.
- deleted 16y ago[deleted]
- thenduks 16y agoAgreed. I'd be ok with, after voting, a new link appended to the status line (1 point by so-and-so...) that just undoes your vote. Even if that is permanent (eg, can't vote again).
- stcredzero 16y agoCall it "abstain."
- gr366 16y agoOr could simply modifying the UI solve this problem? Putting the downvote arrow to the right of a news item (maybe just on mobile devices) would prevent fat-fingering, and then votes can remain permanent.
- jodrellblank 16y agoOr could simply not feeling guilty solve this problem? The up/downvotes are to give an aggregate view of the community response to a comment, not to give a precision karma score.
- lionhearted 16y agoI like the permanence, because sometimes I upvote an insightful comment, then read an insightful reply and upvote it too. I think if votes were impermanent, I might be more tempted to null or downvote the original point if the second one is better - not because of evil, just because of the natural human desire to be very consistent. So I like the permanence thing... ...but I understand the misclicks. Maybe an "undo" button for a short time, like 10 seconds or until your next click that just nulls your vote?
- gte910h 16y ago" I might be more tempted to null or downvote the original point if the second one is better" Can't both comments be good?
- paulgb 16y agoAgreed. I upvote contradictory comments all the time. I don't see it as lacking consistency; I'm voting for quality and thought, not necessarily "right" opinions.
- dhimes 16y agoI'm voting for quality and thought, not necessarily "right" opinions Then you are doing it right.
- TheSOB88 16y agoI almost wanted to upvote this, but I might have regretted it, so I didn't.
- Daniel_Newby 16y agoStack Overflow has an expiring undo and it seems to be a good compromise.
- grinich 16y agoHere's what it looks like in the iPhone app I built: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4595/hn-vote.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4595/hn-vote.png You can see a demo video of the app here: http://michaelgrinich.com/hackernews/ http://michaelgrinich.com/hackernews/