> but it is very much a fact that the meat industry does subject animals to intense suffering >My statement is indisputably factual, the only subjective elemen

> but it is very much a fact that the meat industry does subject animals to intense suffering >My statement is indisputably factual, the only subjective element is whether you believe that system is justifiable. That sure sounds to me like it's universal. Which is why I responded the way I did. I'm not arguing that's everything is totally good. But your statement reads as everything is universally bad. Which isn't factually correct, as you've admitted. Ultimately yes there's a lot of bad stuff going on in the system. But if you only buy animals that were humanely treated it's pretty easy to sleep at night.