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The culture has an ideology about race which is shared and fed by the media. It's almost a nostalgia for the sixties where people want to pin halos on themselve

The culture has an ideology about race which is shared and fed by the media. It's almost a nostalgia for the sixties where people want to pin halos on themselves by pretending its the 60s and that they are fighting against segregated buses etc. The demand for stories which fit this narrative outstrip the supply. The same thing can be seen with various 'hate crimes' which are eventually revealed as hoaxes. The media - and the public - are strangely desperate for this bigoted world to exist - because they can feel more noble fighting it. I'm guessing it has something to do with all the ideological refugees, in academia and the media, from the 60s and 70s who are fighting battles that are long over.

lern_too_spel 10y ago
There is a Virginia gubernatorial candidate encouraging supporters to fly the Confederate battle flag, there are several states that celebrate Confederate History Month (and one more introducing legislation to that effect), there are multiple states with a Confederate Heroes Day or holiday for the birth of the CSA's President, and the POTUS himself has well-documented housing discrimination against blacks, but you believe we live in a post-racial society? Give me a break.
- ykler 10y ago
  The person you are responding to never said we live in a post-racial society.
  - foldr 10y ago
    They didn't use those exact words, but the comment clearly suggests that racial discrimination no longer exists, and that there are few if any real instances of hate crimes.
    - jpttsn 10y ago
      I think you have enemies that believe racial discrimination doesn't exist, and then you too eagerly fit random internet commenters into that pattern of your enemies.
      - foldr 10y ago
        It's actually simpler than that. I just read the comment. It clearly says that hate crimes are largely made up.
        HeavenBanned 10y ago
        Racism never went anywhere, it's just bubbling close to the surface and could blow up at any time if it weren't for the laws we have on the books. That's the fact of the matter. If you privately polled the deep south: "If there was a way to liquidate all muslims and blacks from America without anyone knowing about it carried out by a secret gov't plan, would you endorse it?" I guaran-fucking-tee you they would vote overwhelmingly to do so. That in my opinion is much more frightening than anything. The racism never went anywhere, it's just jammed beneath the surface and glossed over. It was similar to a poll I read that said: "Should we get rid of American muslim's ability to vote?" Something like 50+% of deep south supporters voted in the affirmative. Now imagine if they had power to do so. Imagine if the North lost the civil war. Remember: a MILLION americans died over the civil war. ONE FUCKING MILLION. This is not an over-and-done-with issue. We are still at war with the south. Always will be. I hope they secede, to be honest because they are continually a weak-link that drags the north down. So much racism in this country it's mind-boggling. Just because you fucking forced a couple black kids to go to a white school doesn't mean that we now live in a post-racial society. It just means that white-flight is gonna happen and the mechanisms by which the state forces school to integrate are no longer needed because there are no black people in white neighborhoods and vice-versa. This is compounded significantly by class issues.
foldr 10y ago
Not sure how you can say this when a literal white supremacist just literally murdered a random black man in New York because he was black. Is that a hoax in your view?
- jpttsn 10y ago
  Gp said the demand for stories exceeds the supply. Any one story being supplied can't disprove that.
  - foldr 10y ago
    Who said anything about proof? It's not as if the GGP proved his claims either.
    - jpttsn 10y ago
      "iPhone demand is greater than supply" "Not sure how you can say that when this one guy sold his iPhone" It sounds like a counter argument and fails to be one.
      - foldr 10y ago
        The idea of "demand" for hate crimes doesn't even make sense, so there isn't any argument to respond to. Clearly, the intention of the original commenter was to minimize the existence of hate crimes. That is what I was responding to. You might also bear in mind that it is not difficult to find other examples of hate crimes than the one I chose, or to find official statistics: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015 https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015
- wayn3 10y ago
  was the random black man literally black or just black?
  - foldr 10y ago
    Depends whether you think that 'black' as an ethnic classification has a separate literal meaning from 'black' as a color term. If you do, then yes, literally black. If not, then no, not literally black in color.

lern_too_spel 10y ago

There is a Virginia gubernatorial candidate encouraging supporters to fly the Confederate battle flag, there are several states that celebrate Confederate History Month (and one more introducing legislation to that effect), there are multiple states with a Confederate Heroes Day or holiday for the birth of the CSA's President, and the POTUS himself has well-documented housing discrimination against blacks, but you believe we live in a post-racial society? Give me a break.

ykler 10y ago
The person you are responding to never said we live in a post-racial society.
- foldr 10y ago
  They didn't use those exact words, but the comment clearly suggests that racial discrimination no longer exists, and that there are few if any real instances of hate crimes.
  - jpttsn 10y ago
    I think you have enemies that believe racial discrimination doesn't exist, and then you too eagerly fit random internet commenters into that pattern of your enemies.
    - foldr 10y ago
      It's actually simpler than that. I just read the comment. It clearly says that hate crimes are largely made up.
      - HeavenBanned 10y ago
        Racism never went anywhere, it's just bubbling close to the surface and could blow up at any time if it weren't for the laws we have on the books. That's the fact of the matter. If you privately polled the deep south: "If there was a way to liquidate all muslims and blacks from America without anyone knowing about it carried out by a secret gov't plan, would you endorse it?" I guaran-fucking-tee you they would vote overwhelmingly to do so. That in my opinion is much more frightening than anything. The racism never went anywhere, it's just jammed beneath the surface and glossed over. It was similar to a poll I read that said: "Should we get rid of American muslim's ability to vote?" Something like 50+% of deep south supporters voted in the affirmative. Now imagine if they had power to do so. Imagine if the North lost the civil war. Remember: a MILLION americans died over the civil war. ONE FUCKING MILLION. This is not an over-and-done-with issue. We are still at war with the south. Always will be. I hope they secede, to be honest because they are continually a weak-link that drags the north down. So much racism in this country it's mind-boggling. Just because you fucking forced a couple black kids to go to a white school doesn't mean that we now live in a post-racial society. It just means that white-flight is gonna happen and the mechanisms by which the state forces school to integrate are no longer needed because there are no black people in white neighborhoods and vice-versa. This is compounded significantly by class issues.

foldr 10y ago

Not sure how you can say this when a literal white supremacist just literally murdered a random black man in New York because he was black. Is that a hoax in your view?

jpttsn 10y ago
Gp said the demand for stories exceeds the supply. Any one story being supplied can't disprove that.
- foldr 10y ago
  Who said anything about proof? It's not as if the GGP proved his claims either.
  - jpttsn 10y ago
    "iPhone demand is greater than supply" "Not sure how you can say that when this one guy sold his iPhone" It sounds like a counter argument and fails to be one.
    - foldr 10y ago
      The idea of "demand" for hate crimes doesn't even make sense, so there isn't any argument to respond to. Clearly, the intention of the original commenter was to minimize the existence of hate crimes. That is what I was responding to. You might also bear in mind that it is not difficult to find other examples of hate crimes than the one I chose, or to find official statistics: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015 https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015
wayn3 10y ago
was the random black man literally black or just black?
- foldr 10y ago
  Depends whether you think that 'black' as an ethnic classification has a separate literal meaning from 'black' as a color term. If you do, then yes, literally black. If not, then no, not literally black in color.