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Time to start paying the VPN tax.
by thomastjeffery 10y ago
Time to start paying the VPN tax.
- hprotagonist 10y agogiven the fact that deep packet inspection is real, to what extent will this actually help?
- patrickaljord 10y agoThere's a limit to DPI, if you use an efficient encryption and ssh, you should be fine unless they really want to get you.
- eikenberry 10y agoVPNs are encrypted.
- Jach 10y agoGood ones anyway. Many don't. Even https://github.com/jlund/streisand https://github.com/jlund/streisand if set up on ec2 won't warn you that your ipv6 connections probably aren't blackholed.
- bigphishy 10y agoYour post clearly enforces my suspicion that comments on hackernews have increasingly become infected with users who do not know of what they speak, and do not clearly think before they type.
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- hprotagonist 10y agoThat's fine. I am aware that properly configured VPNs are DPI resistant. I am also aware that they aren't foolproof.
- sctb 10y agoNo matter what you're replying to, personal attacks like this are not OK on HN.
- make3 10y agountil they start throttling encrypted traffic systematically
- tzakrajs 10y agoThat's all fine an idea until people use steganography to hide encrypted messages in plain sight.
- Forbo 10y agoGood luck scaling that. Things like DesuDesuTalk have pretty limited adoption for a reason.
- tzakrajs 10y agoUsing jpg or other images is one method, but I imagine that you can use steganography in a variety of mediums. The only constraint is that the eavesdropper must not know that the cipher text is inside of the metaphorical plain text, otherwise you are throttled. In other words, the secret must have the same heuristics as any plain text. Can you fool the sensor that detects ciphertext? Great -- no throttle for you!
- chocolatebunny 10y agoThat would piss off all big businesses that have remote workers that have to VPN to their networks.
- cmurf 10y agoBusiness level service would permit and not throttle VPN. For consumer products, it will (probably) be an add-on. Whether they block or throttle or do both, is a market opportunity each ISP will decide.
- orthecreedence 10y agoCurious: if you're an ISP, how do you tell the difference between me VPNing into my Big Tech, Inc. and me VPNing into Private VPN, Inc?
- clubm8 10y agoUnfortunately some popular services (Netflix, Hulu) block VPN traffic. So I've moved a large chunk of my browsing over to Tor, but that makes it an open target for the NSA since they feel they can attack any data passing through links outside the NSA. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
- thomastjeffery 10y agoNot to mention a VPN is another expense, and a bandage for the greater problem..