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> I think you have this a little backwards. It's Trump who portrayed black communities like that. lol no. But as you are pointing to a CNN article it makes se

> I think you have this a little backwards. It's Trump who portrayed black communities like that. lol no. But as you are pointing to a CNN article it makes sense you would think that, if thats where you were getting your news. They were trying to influence the election just as much anyone (aka the Russians), but apparently that doesn't bother anyone.

dcole2929 10y ago
Trumps literal argument for why blacks should vote for him was "What do you have to lose?". Independent source - AP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jasg-_E5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jasg-_E5M
- jpttsn 10y ago
  Did it work?
pvg 10y ago
The article is for the quotes which are accurate. It's Trump who said African Americans have 'nothing to lose', described the conditions in which they live as the 'worst ever' and portrayed the communities in which they live in outright dystopian terms. So I think that's a 'yes' and not much of a lol.
wonderflpancake 10y ago
re: "What do you have to lose?" - This is simply the very valid argument that many big cities have been Democrat-run for the last 50 or so years, and saying the equivalent of "its not working, stop voting that way".
- pvg 10y ago
  It doesn't matter what the argument is, it suggests that they are doing very, very poorly. We were discussing whether Trump employed this rhetoric. Yes he did and it was the centerpiece (and nearly totality) of his campaign's black voter outreach. The premise is that conditions for African Americans are a disaster. I'm not sure what there is to dispute here.
- alistproducer2 10y ago
  All the black folks I know, including myself, did not take it like that. The point, being made in front of an all white audience, as it was, looked a lot more like a reinforcement of the well trodden belief among conservative folks that black people's problems are due to Democratic mismanagement, their own rotten culture, and not racism (because racism hasn't been real since the 60's)

dcole2929 10y ago

Trumps literal argument for why blacks should vote for him was "What do you have to lose?". Independent source - AP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jasg-_E5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jasg-_E5M

jpttsn 10y ago
Did it work?

pvg 10y ago

The article is for the quotes which are accurate. It's Trump who said African Americans have 'nothing to lose', described the conditions in which they live as the 'worst ever' and portrayed the communities in which they live in outright dystopian terms. So I think that's a 'yes' and not much of a lol.

wonderflpancake 10y ago

re: "What do you have to lose?" - This is simply the very valid argument that many big cities have been Democrat-run for the last 50 or so years, and saying the equivalent of "its not working, stop voting that way".

pvg 10y ago
It doesn't matter what the argument is, it suggests that they are doing very, very poorly. We were discussing whether Trump employed this rhetoric. Yes he did and it was the centerpiece (and nearly totality) of his campaign's black voter outreach. The premise is that conditions for African Americans are a disaster. I'm not sure what there is to dispute here.
alistproducer2 10y ago
All the black folks I know, including myself, did not take it like that. The point, being made in front of an all white audience, as it was, looked a lot more like a reinforcement of the well trodden belief among conservative folks that black people's problems are due to Democratic mismanagement, their own rotten culture, and not racism (because racism hasn't been real since the 60's)