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I think that stands to reason, unless the OP wants to argue it's an innate defect of the Chinese as a race - which, to be clear, I don't think anyone is arguing

by eloff 10y ago

I think that stands to reason, unless the OP wants to argue it's an innate defect of the Chinese as a race - which, to be clear, I don't think anyone is arguing. In outsourcing situations where you replace a highly-skilled and highly-paid worker with a low paid one in another country, you often get predictably bad results. Is it a cultural difference? Is it because of the compensation? Or just the attitudes of the companies involved on both sides and the kind of people they hire? I think like any complex issue, there's no one answer, but that last point sounds particularly convincing.

lettergram 10y ago
I'm arguing that due to networking effects, having decades of tribal knowledge is worth the cost to keep it. Starting anew elsewhere, even with smart people can sometimes take decades to build that knowledge. Look at SF, every company competes in that market for software engineers because that's where the talent is. It's actually a concept explored by the book "The Talent Code", and even explains why so many people from puerto rico (by population) are so amazing at baseball. Everyone plays, everyone looks up to it, and everyone makes everyone else better.
- upquark 10y ago
  This whole discussion is setting off my BS detectors (your comments specifically, dad with HS degree vs 'the Chinese', etc), and to be honest, the whole tribal knowledge thing may be much more wishful thinking than an actual true effect...
  - upquark 10y ago
    Do the esteemed downvoters care to substantiate their position with anything other than "my daddy said so" anecdotes?
- wott 10y ago
  > Look at SF, every company competes in that market for software engineers because that's where the talent is. No, they bring the "talent" (God, I hate this word and what it carries) from everywhere across the country and abroad. They is no tesseract fuelled talent generator device hidden below SF.
  - deathhand 10y ago
    Not a generator per se but a lure. It is a cycle where one feeds the other. People made great things and they needed talent. Talent goes there to hopefully be great those who came before. Repeat ad nauseam.
dv_dt 10y ago
I think it reflects badly on management planning - that they did first order accounting and found savings, but missed second or higher order effects that affected the accounting in significant ways.

by eloff 10y ago

lettergram 10y ago

I'm arguing that due to networking effects, having decades of tribal knowledge is worth the cost to keep it. Starting anew elsewhere, even with smart people can sometimes take decades to build that knowledge. Look at SF, every company competes in that market for software engineers because that's where the talent is. It's actually a concept explored by the book "The Talent Code", and even explains why so many people from puerto rico (by population) are so amazing at baseball. Everyone plays, everyone looks up to it, and everyone makes everyone else better.

upquark 10y ago
This whole discussion is setting off my BS detectors (your comments specifically, dad with HS degree vs 'the Chinese', etc), and to be honest, the whole tribal knowledge thing may be much more wishful thinking than an actual true effect...
- upquark 10y ago
  Do the esteemed downvoters care to substantiate their position with anything other than "my daddy said so" anecdotes?
wott 10y ago
> Look at SF, every company competes in that market for software engineers because that's where the talent is. No, they bring the "talent" (God, I hate this word and what it carries) from everywhere across the country and abroad. They is no tesseract fuelled talent generator device hidden below SF.
- deathhand 10y ago
  Not a generator per se but a lure. It is a cycle where one feeds the other. People made great things and they needed talent. Talent goes there to hopefully be great those who came before. Repeat ad nauseam.

dv_dt 10y ago

I think it reflects badly on management planning - that they did first order accounting and found savings, but missed second or higher order effects that affected the accounting in significant ways.