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I don't know if it's fat or sugar that's killing us. I lost 50 pounds just eating balanced, healthy, nutritious meals. I reduce my sugar intake but didn't elimi

I don't know if it's fat or sugar that's killing us. I lost 50 pounds just eating balanced, healthy, nutritious meals. I reduce my sugar intake but didn't eliminate it. In fact I stuck to my twice weekly energy drinks and occasional candy bars and milkshakes. However my meals were regimented to include protein, vegetables, very rarely bread, rarely cheese, stopped drinking milk, and cooked everything at home from scratch. Less eating out. The only thing I truly eliminated from my diet was packaged foods, and highly processed meals in a box. So no more Cheeseburger Macaroni. So really, maybe, it's not sugar and fat, it may just be the highly processed cheap foods, microwaved stuff, etc.

JoeAltmaier 10y ago
Is eating out really that bad? Restaurants cook so much better than me. I know fast food is bad, but a salad or steak? Don't make me give up my restaurants!
- justboxing 10y ago
  > Restaurants cook so much better than me. It depends on what you mean by 'better'. Taste better, or nutritiously better. My friend here in San Francisco runs a Pakistani-"Indian" restaurant on Jackson St, and during Christmas week I helped him out in the kitchen as his staff was thin (just moving food in and out to customers' tables, taking back dishes etc, no cooking) This may not be the case at all restaurants, but I was pretty horrified at how the average restaurant around the corner operates. They put loads of salt, cream and butter in everything. Vegetables and meats are purchased in bulk from restaurant supply stores and are rarely fresh. If a customer didn't like an entree, they'd just make a new one with more salt, cream (if applicable) and butter. They have 4.5 star average reviews on YELP. Always packed on lunch hour and evenings during the week. In his (Owner / my friend's )own words "Anything can be made to taste great if you throw in salt and butter". Some Indian restaurant use oil and a dash of butter even in their Basmati rice!
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    Still, not talking carbs or sugar right? The old 'fats are bad' and 'salt is bad' legend dies hard. They are really our savior if moving from carbs to veg and meat.
    - Overtonwindow 10y ago
      Oh, animal, definitely animal.
- Overtonwindow 10y ago
  I don't think restaurants are that good. Their mission is typically profit, not health. With enough salt, sugar, etc. they can make the food taste delicious, but that doesn't mean it's nutritious. Unless you're eating really fine dining, I think the vast majority of places, especially chains, are trying to sell the cheapest food they can for the most profit.
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    Still, a salad and a hunk of meat are pretty much what they appear to be.
justboxing 10y ago
> However my meals were regimented to include protein, vegetables Curious. plant-based protein or animal protein?
- magic_beans 10y ago
  Most plant-based protein sources (tofu, tempeh, any kind of bean, soy meats, etc) are quite high in carbs.
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JoeAltmaier 10y ago

Is eating out really that bad? Restaurants cook so much better than me. I know fast food is bad, but a salad or steak? Don't make me give up my restaurants!

justboxing 10y ago
> Restaurants cook so much better than me. It depends on what you mean by 'better'. Taste better, or nutritiously better. My friend here in San Francisco runs a Pakistani-"Indian" restaurant on Jackson St, and during Christmas week I helped him out in the kitchen as his staff was thin (just moving food in and out to customers' tables, taking back dishes etc, no cooking) This may not be the case at all restaurants, but I was pretty horrified at how the average restaurant around the corner operates. They put loads of salt, cream and butter in everything. Vegetables and meats are purchased in bulk from restaurant supply stores and are rarely fresh. If a customer didn't like an entree, they'd just make a new one with more salt, cream (if applicable) and butter. They have 4.5 star average reviews on YELP. Always packed on lunch hour and evenings during the week. In his (Owner / my friend's )own words "Anything can be made to taste great if you throw in salt and butter". Some Indian restaurant use oil and a dash of butter even in their Basmati rice!
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Still, not talking carbs or sugar right? The old 'fats are bad' and 'salt is bad' legend dies hard. They are really our savior if moving from carbs to veg and meat.
  - Overtonwindow 10y ago
    Oh, animal, definitely animal.
Overtonwindow 10y ago
I don't think restaurants are that good. Their mission is typically profit, not health. With enough salt, sugar, etc. they can make the food taste delicious, but that doesn't mean it's nutritious. Unless you're eating really fine dining, I think the vast majority of places, especially chains, are trying to sell the cheapest food they can for the most profit.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Still, a salad and a hunk of meat are pretty much what they appear to be.

justboxing 10y ago

> However my meals were regimented to include protein, vegetables Curious. plant-based protein or animal protein?

magic_beans 10y ago
Most plant-based protein sources (tofu, tempeh, any kind of bean, soy meats, etc) are quite high in carbs.

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