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This sounds amazing, but it also kind of scares me. How do you enforce your employment agreement so that they don't just eventually increase your work week to 5

by jharger 10y ago

This sounds amazing, but it also kind of scares me. How do you enforce your employment agreement so that they don't just eventually increase your work week to 5 days and keep you at the same lower salary?

xyzzyz 10y ago
You put it into the employment contract, and in any case, you can always leave.
- pc86 10y ago
  Most places don't have employment contracts. The short answer is you can't. Your boss is always within his or her right to tell you that you have to stay. You're 100% within your right to say "no" and walk out of the door.
  - xyzzyz 10y ago
    By "you can leave" I mean you can quit and find new employment.
  - pdeuchler 10y ago
    >> Most places don't have employment contracts. Wait, what?! I'm on the younger side, even for a forum like this, and I've had an employment contract for every job I've ever had... even as an intern, short term contractor, or just summer jobs in high school. I'd immediately walk away from any offer that didn't include an employment contract. Not putting your terms of employment in writing can only result in you, the employee, getting exploited. There are no positives.
    - phil21 10y ago
      He means an actual contract, not the US 'contract' which is just the equivalent of you signing a bunch of click-through EULAs stating they have the right to fire you for any reason at any time. I've worked a job with a real contract once in my career. I'm not sure I would do it again. Not being able to quit is a strange feeling, even though there is quite a lot of consideration in return. In the end I opted to not renew and go back to a simple at-will agreement, since I kind of resented the lack of freedom it gave me. A real contract actually means they must pay the full length regardless of if they fire you, save of course for specific "for cause" reasons outlined in the agreement.
tokai 10y ago
>How do you enforce your employment agreement so that they don't just eventually increase your work week to 5 days and keep you at the same lower salary? Through unions and collective bargaining.

by jharger 10y ago

xyzzyz 10y ago

You put it into the employment contract, and in any case, you can always leave.

pc86 10y ago
Most places don't have employment contracts. The short answer is you can't. Your boss is always within his or her right to tell you that you have to stay. You're 100% within your right to say "no" and walk out of the door.
- xyzzyz 10y ago
  By "you can leave" I mean you can quit and find new employment.
- pdeuchler 10y ago
  >> Most places don't have employment contracts. Wait, what?! I'm on the younger side, even for a forum like this, and I've had an employment contract for every job I've ever had... even as an intern, short term contractor, or just summer jobs in high school. I'd immediately walk away from any offer that didn't include an employment contract. Not putting your terms of employment in writing can only result in you, the employee, getting exploited. There are no positives.
  - phil21 10y ago
    He means an actual contract, not the US 'contract' which is just the equivalent of you signing a bunch of click-through EULAs stating they have the right to fire you for any reason at any time. I've worked a job with a real contract once in my career. I'm not sure I would do it again. Not being able to quit is a strange feeling, even though there is quite a lot of consideration in return. In the end I opted to not renew and go back to a simple at-will agreement, since I kind of resented the lack of freedom it gave me. A real contract actually means they must pay the full length regardless of if they fire you, save of course for specific "for cause" reasons outlined in the agreement.

tokai 10y ago

>How do you enforce your employment agreement so that they don't just eventually increase your work week to 5 days and keep you at the same lower salary? Through unions and collective bargaining.