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A battery/renewable energy company.

by sah2ed 10y ago

reilly3000 10y ago
I think the key distinction is hard costs. Tech companies have server costs. Tesla has manufacturing and contractor expenses.
- jonknee 10y ago
  Exactly. Tesla is a tech company like GE is a tech company. It's modern manufacturing. (This only matters for valuation sake, a classic tech play can achieve profit margins far higher than a manufacturing firm.)
- lightbyte 10y ago
  Tesla has plenty of server architecture, their cars are constantly talking to it for data collection and updates.
- Someone 10y ago
  The word "tech" apparently has changed meaning in some circles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology: "Technology ("science of craft", from Greek τέχνη, techne, "art, skill, cunning of hand"; and -λογία, -logia) is the collection of techniques, skills, methods and processes used in the production of goods or services or in the accomplishment of objectives, such as scientific investigation. Technology can be the knowledge of techniques, processes, and the like, or it can be embedded in machines which can be operated without detailed knowledge of their workings." You can argue that that isn't accurate, but I don't see how you can argue that the categorical statement "tech companies have server costs" follows from it (I can't even find the word "server" on that page, or on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech)
olivermarks 10y ago
I thought panasonic was their white label battery supplier/partner?
- sah2ed 10y ago
  Yes, but even they can't keep up with the projected demand for batteries which is why Tesla is building out its own factory [1] in partnership with Panasonic [2] to manufacture batteries. [1] https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory [2] https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-and-tesla-sign-agreement-gigafactory https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-and-tesla-sign-agreemen...

A battery/renewable energy company.

by sah2ed 10y ago

A battery/renewable energy company.

I think the key distinction is hard costs. Tech companies have server costs. Tesla has manufacturing and contractor expenses.

jonknee 10y ago
Exactly. Tesla is a tech company like GE is a tech company. It's modern manufacturing. (This only matters for valuation sake, a classic tech play can achieve profit margins far higher than a manufacturing firm.)
lightbyte 10y ago
Tesla has plenty of server architecture, their cars are constantly talking to it for data collection and updates.
Someone 10y ago
The word "tech" apparently has changed meaning in some circles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology: "Technology ("science of craft", from Greek τέχνη, techne, "art, skill, cunning of hand"; and -λογία, -logia) is the collection of techniques, skills, methods and processes used in the production of goods or services or in the accomplishment of objectives, such as scientific investigation. Technology can be the knowledge of techniques, processes, and the like, or it can be embedded in machines which can be operated without detailed knowledge of their workings." You can argue that that isn't accurate, but I don't see how you can argue that the categorical statement "tech companies have server costs" follows from it (I can't even find the word "server" on that page, or on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech)

olivermarks 10y ago

I thought panasonic was their white label battery supplier/partner?

sah2ed 10y ago
Yes, but even they can't keep up with the projected demand for batteries which is why Tesla is building out its own factory [1] in partnership with Panasonic [2] to manufacture batteries. [1] https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory [2] https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-and-tesla-sign-agreement-gigafactory https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-and-tesla-sign-agreemen...