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I want to do the server side by Python or Go. My main concern is building a secure, free and open source platform for messaging. It's somehow impossible to fi

I want to do the server side by Python or Go. My main concern is building a secure, free and open source platform for messaging. It's somehow impossible to find a solution that combines both great features and privacy, so it's a good idea to create one.

roryisok 10y ago
> a secure, free and open source platform for messaging. Free and open source is relatively easy, "secure" is a very hard problem > It's somehow impossible to find a solution that combines both great features and privacy what great features are missing from the likes of telegram and signal? Please don't take this personally, I'm not trying to pick holes in your statements, I just want to understand what is driving you to try to build your own IM client. It's important to realise that 1. There's a lot of competition 2. building something like this is a huge commitment and will take up all of your spare time for at least a number of months 3. People are happy using what they already use I imagine you're hoping that you'll build an IM client thats free, open, secure, has all the best features of others and respects privacy, and that all of your friends will then switch to using this client. Getting user traction is perhaps the hardest part of this equation. If you're lucky, you'll build an open, free, working IM which has a handful of the features you want, and you'll convince a few friends to install it. But the majority of the people you know will still use whatsapp, or snapchat, or whatever, and you'll end up splitting your conversations between those apps and this new app that you yourself created. As always, there's a relevant xkcd comic for this situation, and this is it: https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
- Abolfazl 10y ago
  > what great features are missing from the likes of telegram and signal? I miss their features in free ones! > 1. There's a lot of competition Maybe it doesn't make sense to you but censorship in my country forces people to jump from a messenger to another frequently. Facebook, Whatsapp, Viber, Line and many others! Attracing people isn't that hard, because people need something good and reliable. > 2. building something like this is a huge commitment and will take up all of your spare time for at least a number of months That's right, it's not possible to do anything good in a night!
  - roryisok 10y ago
    Telegram is free!
    - Abolfazl 10y ago
      No, just the client side is free.

roryisok 10y ago

> a secure, free and open source platform for messaging. Free and open source is relatively easy, "secure" is a very hard problem > It's somehow impossible to find a solution that combines both great features and privacy what great features are missing from the likes of telegram and signal? Please don't take this personally, I'm not trying to pick holes in your statements, I just want to understand what is driving you to try to build your own IM client. It's important to realise that 1. There's a lot of competition 2. building something like this is a huge commitment and will take up all of your spare time for at least a number of months 3. People are happy using what they already use I imagine you're hoping that you'll build an IM client thats free, open, secure, has all the best features of others and respects privacy, and that all of your friends will then switch to using this client. Getting user traction is perhaps the hardest part of this equation. If you're lucky, you'll build an open, free, working IM which has a handful of the features you want, and you'll convince a few friends to install it. But the majority of the people you know will still use whatsapp, or snapchat, or whatever, and you'll end up splitting your conversations between those apps and this new app that you yourself created. As always, there's a relevant xkcd comic for this situation, and this is it: https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/

Abolfazl 10y ago
> what great features are missing from the likes of telegram and signal? I miss their features in free ones! > 1. There's a lot of competition Maybe it doesn't make sense to you but censorship in my country forces people to jump from a messenger to another frequently. Facebook, Whatsapp, Viber, Line and many others! Attracing people isn't that hard, because people need something good and reliable. > 2. building something like this is a huge commitment and will take up all of your spare time for at least a number of months That's right, it's not possible to do anything good in a night!
- roryisok 10y ago
  Telegram is free!
  - Abolfazl 10y ago
    No, just the client side is free.