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What you quoted is a textbook example of "word salad," a symptom of schizophrenia. Look at it, it's not even close to coherent. Racist delusions are not exactly

What you quoted is a textbook example of "word salad," a symptom of schizophrenia. Look at it, it's not even close to coherent. Racist delusions are not exactly unheard of in paranoid schizophrenia. Unless we have information about what Terry was like before he developed schizophrenia, it's impossible to tell if this apparent racism is him or the disease. Honestly, I'm inclined to think it's the disease. I've seen him write coherent things and I've seen him write incoherent things, but I haven't seen any instance of him talking coherently in a racist manner.

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bobsgame 10y ago
Terry's "schizophrenia" just means he perceives reality differently than you do. The "word salad" is actually not random nonsense. Your mind is perfectly trained to value political correctness and money, and so you find his thoughts nonsensical or abhorrent. Terry's mind has developed to value art and speaking the truth as he perceives it without any social filter. What you are seeing is a true artist with a perception of reality so different from your own that you don't comprehend it as rational. If you read it carefully, you'll realize everything he says is perfectly rational, he knows perfectly well what he's saying, and racist or not, from a certain perspective there is reason to it. Imagine you are talking to someone who has been living in the wilderness for a long time, who has stumbled back into civilization and has gained a reputation for being a crazy person, and they point at a cave and say "bear hole makes the rain go away!" and becomes very frustrated that nobody bothers to try and understand them (and instead just repeats the popular opinion about how they are crazy). Are they actually speaking nonsense? I think that's what [some] schizophrenia actually is.
- geocar 10y ago
  That's not what schizophrenia is.
executesorder66 10y ago
From Wikipedia: > Word salad is a "confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases",[1] most often used to describe a symptom of a neurological or mental disorder. The words may or may not be grammatically correct, but are semantically confused to the point that the listener cannot extract any meaning from them. It isn't word salad. Yes it is not perfect English, but I can quite easily understand what he is saying. Edit: since the parent comment was flagged here was the quote (taken from the templeOS.org homepage): > Reputation is worth more than gold. Niggers have a reputation -- no fathers. Irish have a reputation. Germans have a reputation. Attacker has the advantage. Jews have a reputation. God said the French once stood for character. (Code of Chivalry) Ironic. I guess Jews did, too. Woah! God is boss. Too bad the Jews were cowards and didn't assassinate NAZI's. Can you really say that you cannot extract any meaning from that?
- adrianratnapala 10y ago
  Meaning is hard. What know I cannot do is construct an coherent or even intelligible argument from the quoted paragraph. I can extract meanings from some of the sentences; but I also can see you have not even bothered to explain your objections to them. More importantly, it seems you don't even care about coherency. It looks like that to you, if something "feels bad" then it is bad.
  - executesorder66 10y ago
    What the hell are you talking about? > More importantly, it seems you don't even care about coherency. It looks like that to you, if something "feels bad" then it is bad. I don't understand where this is coming from. Please explain what you mean, and why you think that. > but I also can see you have not even bothered to explain your objections to them. My objection was that the parent post claimed the quote was "word salad" and I claim it is not, because the quote obviously has a message and it is not difficult to figure out what it is. If you meant that I didn't bother explaining the message, well then here is how I interpret the quote: >Reputation is worth more than gold. Niggers have a reputation -- no fathers. He's talking about stereotypes here, and how there is a stereotype that many black men abandon their children/family. > Irish have a reputation. Germans have a reputation. Again referencing stereotypes. > Attacker has the advantage. Guy who hits first usually wins the fight. > Jews have a reputation. God said the French once stood for character. (Code of Chivalry) Ironic. Again, stereotypes. He is obviously referencing WW2 in this context and talking about how the French were easily defeated by the Germans. > I guess Jews did, too. Woah! God is boss. Too bad the Jews were cowards and didn't assassinate NAZI's. I'm guessing here he is saying the Jews were God's chosen people, but they didn't live up to that an let the Germans almost destroy them. So yeah, most people don't talk like this guy in normal conversation, but it is pretty clear to me that he is talking about stereotypes and sticking up for yourself. I might not get the finer details he is trying to communicate, but even so it is far from unintelligible.
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bobsgame 10y ago

Terry's "schizophrenia" just means he perceives reality differently than you do. The "word salad" is actually not random nonsense. Your mind is perfectly trained to value political correctness and money, and so you find his thoughts nonsensical or abhorrent. Terry's mind has developed to value art and speaking the truth as he perceives it without any social filter. What you are seeing is a true artist with a perception of reality so different from your own that you don't comprehend it as rational. If you read it carefully, you'll realize everything he says is perfectly rational, he knows perfectly well what he's saying, and racist or not, from a certain perspective there is reason to it. Imagine you are talking to someone who has been living in the wilderness for a long time, who has stumbled back into civilization and has gained a reputation for being a crazy person, and they point at a cave and say "bear hole makes the rain go away!" and becomes very frustrated that nobody bothers to try and understand them (and instead just repeats the popular opinion about how they are crazy). Are they actually speaking nonsense? I think that's what [some] schizophrenia actually is.

geocar 10y ago
That's not what schizophrenia is.

executesorder66 10y ago

From Wikipedia: > Word salad is a "confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases",[1] most often used to describe a symptom of a neurological or mental disorder. The words may or may not be grammatically correct, but are semantically confused to the point that the listener cannot extract any meaning from them. It isn't word salad. Yes it is not perfect English, but I can quite easily understand what he is saying. Edit: since the parent comment was flagged here was the quote (taken from the templeOS.org homepage): > Reputation is worth more than gold. Niggers have a reputation -- no fathers. Irish have a reputation. Germans have a reputation. Attacker has the advantage. Jews have a reputation. God said the French once stood for character. (Code of Chivalry) Ironic. I guess Jews did, too. Woah! God is boss. Too bad the Jews were cowards and didn't assassinate NAZI's. Can you really say that you cannot extract any meaning from that?

adrianratnapala 10y ago
Meaning is hard. What know I cannot do is construct an coherent or even intelligible argument from the quoted paragraph. I can extract meanings from some of the sentences; but I also can see you have not even bothered to explain your objections to them. More importantly, it seems you don't even care about coherency. It looks like that to you, if something "feels bad" then it is bad.
- executesorder66 10y ago
  What the hell are you talking about? > More importantly, it seems you don't even care about coherency. It looks like that to you, if something "feels bad" then it is bad. I don't understand where this is coming from. Please explain what you mean, and why you think that. > but I also can see you have not even bothered to explain your objections to them. My objection was that the parent post claimed the quote was "word salad" and I claim it is not, because the quote obviously has a message and it is not difficult to figure out what it is. If you meant that I didn't bother explaining the message, well then here is how I interpret the quote: >Reputation is worth more than gold. Niggers have a reputation -- no fathers. He's talking about stereotypes here, and how there is a stereotype that many black men abandon their children/family. > Irish have a reputation. Germans have a reputation. Again referencing stereotypes. > Attacker has the advantage. Guy who hits first usually wins the fight. > Jews have a reputation. God said the French once stood for character. (Code of Chivalry) Ironic. Again, stereotypes. He is obviously referencing WW2 in this context and talking about how the French were easily defeated by the Germans. > I guess Jews did, too. Woah! God is boss. Too bad the Jews were cowards and didn't assassinate NAZI's. I'm guessing here he is saying the Jews were God's chosen people, but they didn't live up to that an let the Germans almost destroy them. So yeah, most people don't talk like this guy in normal conversation, but it is pretty clear to me that he is talking about stereotypes and sticking up for yourself. I might not get the finer details he is trying to communicate, but even so it is far from unintelligible.

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