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Why isn't anyone talking about the inability to install non-apple approved apps on the iPhone, the iPad, pretty soon apple tv, and I'm sure in about a couple of

Why isn't anyone talking about the inability to install non-apple approved apps on the iPhone, the iPad, pretty soon apple tv, and I'm sure in about a couple of year all apple devices. Isn't this a major issue? The inability to have access to apps that steve doesn't necessarily approve of? As I write this on my iPad, I wonder how long it will be before I'm not allowed to type certain words on apple "soft" keyboards? Steve stance on the reasons for disallowing apps also concerns me. It would ok if he does this to create a monopoly (which is really what the store is, for all intents and purposes), but what scares me is that he claims he does it for "people" ... And Walt and Sara, just like last time, didn't think that was an important enough issue to press upon. Kudos for asking about the gizmodo issue though

stanleydrew 16y ago
Uhh, a lot of people are talking about that stuff. All the time.
- shivanand 16y ago
  True, but nobody who has access to steve wants to call him out on that?
acqq 16y ago
> The inability to have access to apps that steve doesn't necessarily approve of? Can you imagine that have your own shop in which you want to sell a lot of toys to kids. Why should a local porn dealer have the right to sell the porn in your store? Jobs has the right to select what he wants to sell. You have the right to select where and what you buy. Whenever I hear such arguments they smell me to people who are actually porn dealers unsatisfied with their own shop who think they have the right to demand from a shiny shop over the street to sell their goods for them.
jstevens85 16y ago
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/ >7:14PM Walt: Can I talk to you about a somewhat different subject, which is curation? You are a retailer of a lot of content, and of apps. And there's been a lot of controversy about your app store rejecting things, sometimes you backtrack. I don't know of any law that any merchant whether it's you or Walmart that says you have to carry something you don't want to carry. But isn't there responsibility with that? You become big, you have the most apps. You've talked in some things you've written about protecting the consumer... but isn't there a downside of you guys acquiring all this power and you saying no to some cartoonist or some political candidate? Don't you have a problem there? >7:16PM Steve: Well let first say we have two platforms we support. One is open and uncontrolled -- that's HTML5. We support HTML5. We have the best support for it of anyone in the world. We then support a curated platform which is the app store. It is the most vital app community on any platform. How do we curate this? It's a bunch of people, and they come into work every day. We have a few rules: has to do what it's advertised to do, it has to not crash, it can't use private APIs. And those are the three biggest reasons we reject apps. But we approve 95% of all the apps that are submitted every week. >7:18PM Walt: So what happened with this candidate? Steve: We had a rule that said you can't defame other people. Kara: Determined by your app people. Steve: Yes... and political cartoons got caught in that. We didn't think of that. So this guy submits his app and he gets rejected. We didn't see that coming. So we changed the rule, but this guy never resubmitted... then he wins a Pulitzer Prize, and he says we rejected him. So, we are guilty of making mistakes. We're doing the best we can, we're learning as fast as we can -- but we thought this rule made sense. >7:19PM Steve: We're doing the best we can, we're fixing mistakes. But what happens is -- people lie. And then they run to the press and tell people about this oppression, and they get their 15 minutes of fame. We don't run to the press and say "this guy is a son of a bitch liar!" -- we don't do that. >7:20PM Kara: So in terms of publishing these rules more clearly... Walt: I talk to developers all the time, but they express to me that they're confused... Steve: 95% are approved within 7 days... Walt: So you don't think it could be better? Steve: I do, but I want to remind you.

stanleydrew 16y ago

Uhh, a lot of people are talking about that stuff. All the time.

shivanand 16y ago
True, but nobody who has access to steve wants to call him out on that?

acqq 16y ago

> The inability to have access to apps that steve doesn't necessarily approve of? Can you imagine that have your own shop in which you want to sell a lot of toys to kids. Why should a local porn dealer have the right to sell the porn in your store? Jobs has the right to select what he wants to sell. You have the right to select where and what you buy. Whenever I hear such arguments they smell me to people who are actually porn dealers unsatisfied with their own shop who think they have the right to demand from a shiny shop over the street to sell their goods for them.

jstevens85 16y ago

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/ >7:14PM Walt: Can I talk to you about a somewhat different subject, which is curation? You are a retailer of a lot of content, and of apps. And there's been a lot of controversy about your app store rejecting things, sometimes you backtrack. I don't know of any law that any merchant whether it's you or Walmart that says you have to carry something you don't want to carry. But isn't there responsibility with that? You become big, you have the most apps. You've talked in some things you've written about protecting the consumer... but isn't there a downside of you guys acquiring all this power and you saying no to some cartoonist or some political candidate? Don't you have a problem there? >7:16PM Steve: Well let first say we have two platforms we support. One is open and uncontrolled -- that's HTML5. We support HTML5. We have the best support for it of anyone in the world. We then support a curated platform which is the app store. It is the most vital app community on any platform. How do we curate this? It's a bunch of people, and they come into work every day. We have a few rules: has to do what it's advertised to do, it has to not crash, it can't use private APIs. And those are the three biggest reasons we reject apps. But we approve 95% of all the apps that are submitted every week. >7:18PM Walt: So what happened with this candidate? Steve: We had a rule that said you can't defame other people. Kara: Determined by your app people. Steve: Yes... and political cartoons got caught in that. We didn't think of that. So this guy submits his app and he gets rejected. We didn't see that coming. So we changed the rule, but this guy never resubmitted... then he wins a Pulitzer Prize, and he says we rejected him. So, we are guilty of making mistakes. We're doing the best we can, we're learning as fast as we can -- but we thought this rule made sense. >7:19PM Steve: We're doing the best we can, we're fixing mistakes. But what happens is -- people lie. And then they run to the press and tell people about this oppression, and they get their 15 minutes of fame. We don't run to the press and say "this guy is a son of a bitch liar!" -- we don't do that. >7:20PM Kara: So in terms of publishing these rules more clearly... Walt: I talk to developers all the time, but they express to me that they're confused... Steve: 95% are approved within 7 days... Walt: So you don't think it could be better? Steve: I do, but I want to remind you.