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It could be. There's no context here. In this constructed example sure, it's not a friendly gesture. But it is a poor example. Here's the one I'd use: "Hey em

• emodendroket 10y ago
  Which one of these e-mails do you think a boss looking to seduce his employee is more likely to send?
  • webkike 10y ago
    I'm saying that it's unhelpful in this example to not be more clear.
    • emodendroket 10y ago
      I don't think so. I think using a more realistic example makes the point clearer.
• misnome 10y ago
  I agree that there isn't enough context. The example doesn't even specify that it's being sent to a female employee (that's an assumption everyone is making) and I can imagine plenty of scenarios - with context - where it wouldn't necessarily be inappropriate.
  • vidarh 10y ago
    The context here includes the parent comment to the one setting out the scenario, and the reaction of sending a message copied to the boss's boss complaining about it. They make it clear that it was sent to a woman, and that the scenario at the very least was interpreted by the recipient as inappropriate. Yes, there are scenarios where it could be acceptable, but consider that they are (much) narrower than you might think: * Men can be sexually harassed too. * Sexual harassment is not the only problem with an e-mail like that. It may also create drinking pressure, or a feeling that you are forced to socialise with your boss. Of course that is context-dependent too, but for my part, as a man who doesn't enjoy drinking and doesn't want to spend my Saturdays with the boss, I'd fell put under inappropriate pressure by an e-mail like that as well, because I'd be concerned that a rejection could impact work. A lot of behaviour like that is fine when it is not between subordinates, and can be fine with subordinates too if it is someone you know very well. But even then you need to consider that e.g. it may negatively affect team dynamics or may be unintentionally discriminatory or become seen as discriminatory purely by e.g. including only those the manager knows well too.
    • Chris2048 10y ago
      > or a feeling that you are forced to socialise with your boss Would you feel you'd be fired? Because sometimes getting to know someone is an appropriate pathway to success. Scenarios like this are more common at start-ups, aren't they? If you just want to drone through work, with no social connections, the average american mega-corp might be more appropriate.
      • vidarh 10y ago
        My experience is that it seems less common at start-ups, with the caveat that it's my experience and so definitively biased. At least the startups I've been in have been small, tight-knit groups where any socialisation have tended to be group activities, and where there's been little implicit imposing hierarchy, and standing up for yourself tends to be appreciated. In larger companies, on the other hand, you get all kinds of weird little fiefdoms where getting on your managers bad side is potentially far more damaging because if your boss has sufficient support he will be able to musster a much bigger support system.