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What I meant more than anything else with numbers being "universal" is that they exist even if your language doesn't have words for them.

• sjclemmy 10y ago
  Are you sure? ;-) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitionism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitionism
  • adrianratnapala 10y ago
    Even they believe (non-negative) integers.
    • TuringTest 10y ago
      As someone leaning towards Intuitionism myself, I believe in processes with operations that can be repeatedly applied any number of times without breaking themselves apart; such as applying the "successor" operator to "0", to "successor(0)"... to build any particular natural number, given enough time and memory. I don't believe in the existence of a set containing all natural numbers at the same time, except as an idea to talk about.