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Okay, so... occasionally it comes up that I experimented with being a gaming youtuber as a way to escape some of the difficulties I was having with the SV ecosy
by KirinDave 10y ago
Okay, so... occasionally it comes up that I experimented with being a gaming youtuber as a way to escape some of the difficulties I was having with the SV ecosystem. I worked hard, I connected with other famous Youtubers, and bam, I was profitable (sorta) and producing content.
Everything in this article about a capricious Youtube is true. Everything in this article about the underappreciated difficulty of producing this content is true. I produced a lot of media, but I easily put 5x hours into it (it doesn't help I play simulation and builder games). Everything about how expensive and difficult that job is is true.
And it's also true that the communities of Youtube and their related satellites (a lot of fandom on Tumblr, SA's leftovers, 4chan, Twitter, even obscure stuff like GaiaOnline) are... They're hateful. People will find a reason to hate you. Your fans will pick fights in your name. You'll frequently get criticism from both sides of an issue, and they're not always as cut-and-dry as the PewDiePie Nazi joke cards were. I was threatened doxing by a 15 year old, I called in to the SF police to warn them that I was expecting my workplace to be SWATed because people were mad I was "an ally of the feminazi gay community".
But... Folks, at the end of the day none of this really excuses humor about rape, violence, racism, etc. And if you do cross that line because you're desperate or exhausted you do get an out. You can say Mea Culpa, apologize profusely, donate some revenue to charity and people move on. The PDP's particular crisis keeps hovering (besides his degree of exposure) is that he's decided to ally with the unrepentant, openly racist parts of Youtube like Sargon.
There is an implication from this article, as I read it, that it's inevitable that people will break down or make mistakes. I agree with this part, but it also implies that we should forgive unrepentant bad actors who effectively say, "It's about the money. I thought I'd make more if I had people put up cards making light of antisemitism."
That's not a new thought, and these consequences are not new consequences.
- 6stringmerc 10y agoYou're so right that the modern price of fame / celebrity attention is such a minefield. There used to be misguided or mentally unstable folks who would stalk or take things too far, but I think the amount of power modern tech / networks can be deployed for purposes of, well, being mean online has more real world affects than at first. What I'm saying is that far too frequently by the time a young person who craves fame gets it, they're naive on how the system might chew them up and spit them out, and just as they're getting some valuable experience, their time has passed and they're forgotten to the sands of other failed acts.
- KirinDave 10y agoIt'd be an outright lie for me to say that some folks don't try and prove themselves by coming into conflict with a specific person more famous than them. But I also think it's a somewhat inevitable outcome that as you become a focal point for attention you'd better be ready for said scrutiny and for you to be interpreted within the dialogues other people are having. Asking people to do otherwise is absurd, they cannot.