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Steve Jobs On Android
- bsiemon 16y agoWhy do people try to turn normal business competition into some sort of Cain and Able story?
- epochwolf 16y agoBecause Cain and Able stories are more fun. They attract more attention. We haven't evolved much since ancient Rome, we still want to see the blood fly. :)
- staunch 16y agoThat's actually pretty accurate when it comes to Steve Jobs. First it was him and Gates and then him and Schmidt. In both cases it was a close relationship followed by backstabbing.
- patio11 16y agoBecause "Large advertising firm expands product line; moves into competition with major hardware manufacturer" wouldn't get nearly as many pageviews.
- ananthrk 16y agoOT: Is it not Kane and Abel?
- philwelch 16y ago"My sex life is pretty good"? What does that even mean?
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- zain 16y agoEngadget's live coverage has more context. It isn't quite a non-sequitor like TechCrunch says -- Walt actually asked Jobs about his relationship with Google, and Jobs made a joke. 6:49PM Walt: How's your relationship? 6:49PM Steve: My sex life is pretty good. http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/
- pavs 16y agofracking TC and its linkbait shit. TC goes back to my hosts file.
- desigooner 16y agoArrington trying to vye for some more clicks IMO
- zweben 16y agoI guess he was implying that the question was so uncomfortable to answer that he would rather talk about his sex life.
- CamperBob 16y agoIt means that he aimed for Howie Mandel and hit Howard Hughes.
- btilly 16y agoI took it to be a joking way of saying that he's feeling thoroughly screwed.
- pauldirac137 16y agoMaybe it means that he's been having fun fucking iPhone developers up the ass.
- CitizenKane 16y agoSteve Jobs says Apple "created" WebKit. That wording makes it sounds like it started from nothing. But it didn't, WebKit was forked from the KHTML project in 2002 and later diverged (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webkit#Origins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webkit#Origins). One might say WebKit evolved out of KHTML.
- jrockway 16y agoAnd it was like pulling teeth to get Apple to contribute their changes back. For a while, IIRC, they claimed bug reports were proprietary information, and they refused to provide them back to the KHTML team. And that was before Apple was evil!
- kragen 16y agoWasn't that still after Apple sued Real Networks for making it possible to put RealAudio stuff onto iPods, in 2005, and called hackers unethical? Real: "Our Harmony technology enables consumers to securely transfer purchased music to digital music devices, including...iPod..." Apple: "We are stunned that RealNetworks has adopted the tactics and ethics of a hacker to break into the iPod, and we are investigating the implications of their actions under the DMCA and other laws." To me, that was the day Apple turned evil.
- rodh257 16y agoI don't know much about the project itself, but wouldn't web-kit have received contributions from outside of Apple aswell? (perhaps only since 2005 when it was open sourced though)
- staunch 16y agoIs there a video of this available yet?
- davidhperry 16y agoSome clips are beginning to appear on allthingsd.com.
- arfrank 16y agoI found the most interesting part to be right at the end. Apple is a hardware company first, and one market where they already have some expertise is in displays. I realize it's not the exact same technology for TVs, but to think that Apple would not at least give it a shot, with an iTunes backend providing content seems like a missed opportunity in another multibillion dollar market. I figure the next "revolutionary" Apple product will be a "smart" TV.
- shivanand 16y ago... And one that won't let you watch "porn" aka anything that slams apple?! I'm sure it will be awesome like the iPad and I'll buy one (btw)
- andreyf 16y agoJust because we're competing with someone doesn't mean we have to be rude. Great point in light of Google's last IO announcements along the lines of we discovered we can use the internet to sync Android.
- sp332 16y agoTo be clear, that statement was making fun of the current state of Android. The next sentence was an apology for not having the functionality earlier.
- iamelgringo 16y agoSpeaking as a someone who's worked as an ER nurse for 18 years... Steve looks like hell. I'm guessing he's down to about 120lbs. More pics here: http://d8.allthingsd.com/speakers/steve-jobs/#slideshow-1-32 http://d8.allthingsd.com/speakers/steve-jobs/#slideshow-1-32 I know it's a touchy subject, but holy crap. I did a double take when I saw the pictures of him. He is not a well man.
- shivanand 16y agoWhy isn't anyone talking about the inability to install non-apple approved apps on the iPhone, the iPad, pretty soon apple tv, and I'm sure in about a couple of year all apple devices. Isn't this a major issue? The inability to have access to apps that steve doesn't necessarily approve of? As I write this on my iPad, I wonder how long it will be before I'm not allowed to type certain words on apple "soft" keyboards? Steve stance on the reasons for disallowing apps also concerns me. It would ok if he does this to create a monopoly (which is really what the store is, for all intents and purposes), but what scares me is that he claims he does it for "people" ... And Walt and Sara, just like last time, didn't think that was an important enough issue to press upon. Kudos for asking about the gizmodo issue though
- stanleydrew 16y agoUhh, a lot of people are talking about that stuff. All the time.
- shivanand 16y agoTrue, but nobody who has access to steve wants to call him out on that?
- acqq 16y ago> The inability to have access to apps that steve doesn't necessarily approve of? Can you imagine that have your own shop in which you want to sell a lot of toys to kids. Why should a local porn dealer have the right to sell the porn in your store? Jobs has the right to select what he wants to sell. You have the right to select where and what you buy. Whenever I hear such arguments they smell me to people who are actually porn dealers unsatisfied with their own shop who think they have the right to demand from a shiny shop over the street to sell their goods for them.
- jstevens85 16y agohttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/ >7:14PM Walt: Can I talk to you about a somewhat different subject, which is curation? You are a retailer of a lot of content, and of apps. And there's been a lot of controversy about your app store rejecting things, sometimes you backtrack. I don't know of any law that any merchant whether it's you or Walmart that says you have to carry something you don't want to carry. But isn't there responsibility with that? You become big, you have the most apps. You've talked in some things you've written about protecting the consumer... but isn't there a downside of you guys acquiring all this power and you saying no to some cartoonist or some political candidate? Don't you have a problem there? >7:16PM Steve: Well let first say we have two platforms we support. One is open and uncontrolled -- that's HTML5. We support HTML5. We have the best support for it of anyone in the world. We then support a curated platform which is the app store. It is the most vital app community on any platform. How do we curate this? It's a bunch of people, and they come into work every day. We have a few rules: has to do what it's advertised to do, it has to not crash, it can't use private APIs. And those are the three biggest reasons we reject apps. But we approve 95% of all the apps that are submitted every week. >7:18PM Walt: So what happened with this candidate? Steve: We had a rule that said you can't defame other people. Kara: Determined by your app people. Steve: Yes... and political cartoons got caught in that. We didn't think of that. So this guy submits his app and he gets rejected. We didn't see that coming. So we changed the rule, but this guy never resubmitted... then he wins a Pulitzer Prize, and he says we rejected him. So, we are guilty of making mistakes. We're doing the best we can, we're learning as fast as we can -- but we thought this rule made sense. >7:19PM Steve: We're doing the best we can, we're fixing mistakes. But what happens is -- people lie. And then they run to the press and tell people about this oppression, and they get their 15 minutes of fame. We don't run to the press and say "this guy is a son of a bitch liar!" -- we don't do that. >7:20PM Kara: So in terms of publishing these rules more clearly... Walt: I talk to developers all the time, but they express to me that they're confused... Steve: 95% are approved within 7 days... Walt: So you don't think it could be better? Steve: I do, but I want to remind you.