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Elon Musk invested early in DeepMind just to keep tabs on the progress of AI

54 points by jonas21 10y ago

mtgx 10y ago
This is old news. He said it himself in an interview like 2 years ago.
- dorianm 10y ago
  Source?
  - vtange 10y ago
    http://www.popsci.com/our-savior-supervillain http://www.popsci.com/our-savior-supervillain
- rcMgD2BwE72F 10y ago
  The original article (from Vanity Fair) isn't about Musk's investment in IA, but about the debate that oppose many Silicon Valley leaders on IA. Did you read it?
olivermarks 10y ago
This is basically an article abut an article in Vanity Fair, written by NYT oped columnist Maureen Dowd http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/elon-musk-billion-dollar-crusade-to-stop-ai-space-x http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/elon-musk-billion-dol... 'ELON MUSK’S BILLION-DOLLAR CRUSADE TO STOP THE A.I. APOCALYPSE Elon Musk is famous for his futuristic gambles, but Silicon Valley’s latest rush to embrace artificial intelligence scares him. And he thinks you should be frightened too. Inside his efforts to influence the rapidly advancing field and its proponents, and to save humanity from machine-learning overlords.' - headline is pretty much the tl/dr More Musk pr IMO
- rcMgD2BwE72F 10y ago
  Didi you read the article in its enterity? Sure, the headline and introduction is 100% clickbait – the "musk" keyword brings a lot of traffic these days – but past the first quarter of the article, the content becomes a serious report about the conflict among SV leaders (technologists vs transhumanists). It is well illustrated by this chart: http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/58d570430920c94abb9619f6/master/w_900,c_limit/elon-musk-AI-04-17-02.png http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/58d570430920c94abb9619f6/... The TechCrunch repost sucks, as usual. Seriously OP, why submit this sensationalist copypasta that only focus on Musk when the original article is about a dozens of interviews?!
  - olivermarks 10y ago
    I did read it, a lot of name dropping of very wealthy entrepreneurs that Dowd had lunches with. I wouldn't say it was a 'report', more a chattering classes 'let's worry about AI and maybe Musk is our savior' piece IMO...but then I'm an old cynic...
    - rcMgD2BwE72F 10y ago
      Could you point me to another article that resumed the positions about IA (cf. the chart I linked in my previous comment)? I hate the tone of the journalist (so many meaningless anecdotes) but the substance is IMHO quite important. I'd love to consider a paper on these trends without the Musk hype (from the journalist, not Musk himself obviously).
      - olivermarks 10y ago
        I suggest focusing on source materials rather than articles in masthead newspapers (the financial press particularly seem to have endless third hand pieces about this, arguably as filler material) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_artificial_intel...
  - donclark 10y ago
inputcoffee 10y ago
It is interesting how much editorializing can be done with a single word or phrase. Consider: EM invested ... because he was interested in AI. Or: Musk invested... because he wanted to make sure AI developed ethically. But that phrase "keep tabs", which means almost the same thing, suddenly gives it this nefarious twist.
kailuowang 10y ago
I think Elon Musk's concern over A.I. has been widely misunderstood. His concern is NOT A.I. replacing the human species. As he clearly stated in this interview[1], his concern is that the immense power of A.I. owned by a small group of organizations or even individuals, which IMO, is well justified. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBQmEqBCY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBQmEqBCY0

54 points by jonas21 10y ago

mtgx 10y ago

This is old news. He said it himself in an interview like 2 years ago.

dorianm 10y ago
Source?
- vtange 10y ago
  http://www.popsci.com/our-savior-supervillain http://www.popsci.com/our-savior-supervillain
rcMgD2BwE72F 10y ago
The original article (from Vanity Fair) isn't about Musk's investment in IA, but about the debate that oppose many Silicon Valley leaders on IA. Did you read it?

olivermarks 10y ago

This is basically an article abut an article in Vanity Fair, written by NYT oped columnist Maureen Dowd http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/elon-musk-billion-dollar-crusade-to-stop-ai-space-x http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/elon-musk-billion-dol... 'ELON MUSK’S BILLION-DOLLAR CRUSADE TO STOP THE A.I. APOCALYPSE Elon Musk is famous for his futuristic gambles, but Silicon Valley’s latest rush to embrace artificial intelligence scares him. And he thinks you should be frightened too. Inside his efforts to influence the rapidly advancing field and its proponents, and to save humanity from machine-learning overlords.' - headline is pretty much the tl/dr More Musk pr IMO

rcMgD2BwE72F 10y ago
Didi you read the article in its enterity? Sure, the headline and introduction is 100% clickbait – the "musk" keyword brings a lot of traffic these days – but past the first quarter of the article, the content becomes a serious report about the conflict among SV leaders (technologists vs transhumanists). It is well illustrated by this chart: http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/58d570430920c94abb9619f6/master/w_900,c_limit/elon-musk-AI-04-17-02.png http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/58d570430920c94abb9619f6/... The TechCrunch repost sucks, as usual. Seriously OP, why submit this sensationalist copypasta that only focus on Musk when the original article is about a dozens of interviews?!
- olivermarks 10y ago
  I did read it, a lot of name dropping of very wealthy entrepreneurs that Dowd had lunches with. I wouldn't say it was a 'report', more a chattering classes 'let's worry about AI and maybe Musk is our savior' piece IMO...but then I'm an old cynic...
  - rcMgD2BwE72F 10y ago
    Could you point me to another article that resumed the positions about IA (cf. the chart I linked in my previous comment)? I hate the tone of the journalist (so many meaningless anecdotes) but the substance is IMHO quite important. I'd love to consider a paper on these trends without the Musk hype (from the journalist, not Musk himself obviously).
    - olivermarks 10y ago
      I suggest focusing on source materials rather than articles in masthead newspapers (the financial press particularly seem to have endless third hand pieces about this, arguably as filler material) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_artificial_intel...
- donclark 10y ago

inputcoffee 10y ago

It is interesting how much editorializing can be done with a single word or phrase. Consider: EM invested ... because he was interested in AI. Or: Musk invested... because he wanted to make sure AI developed ethically. But that phrase "keep tabs", which means almost the same thing, suddenly gives it this nefarious twist.

kailuowang 10y ago

I think Elon Musk's concern over A.I. has been widely misunderstood. His concern is NOT A.I. replacing the human species. As he clearly stated in this interview[1], his concern is that the immense power of A.I. owned by a small group of organizations or even individuals, which IMO, is well justified. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBQmEqBCY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBQmEqBCY0