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I believe that is literally how they made House of Cards - the original BBC show was relatively popular with people who also liked Kevin Spacey and work by Davi
by untog 10y ago
I believe that is literally how they made House of Cards - the original BBC show was relatively popular with people who also liked Kevin Spacey and work by David Fincher:
https://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/03/20/data-inspires-creativity/ https://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/03/20/data-inspires-crea...
I can't argue against that kind of logic but also agree that it leaves Netflix offerings quite flat. The Crown is also a very good show, but you can almost feel the cross-section of Downton Abbey and The Kings Speech as you watch. I don't think you'd see the algorithm come up with a show like Transparent, for example.
IMO it's gotten worse with all this Marvel stuff. Maybe that's because I see it promoted more than other shows, but having tried a few they're pretty uninspired (and, for crossover purposes, all appear to share the same setting and overall feel). I know it isn't the case, but it feels like the algorithm has reached some sort of recursion loop: our viewers like gritty crime dramas starring superheroes, set in New York. So they'll love this new gritty crime drama starring a superhero, set in New York.
- thirdsun 10y agoIt's ironic then that I regard House Of Cards' early seasons, particularly Season 1, as Netflix' best content to date. To me it felt as if they really aimed for a masterpiece. These days they seem to be fine with catering to popular categories, which might very well be the better approach when it comes to subscriber growth, but average to solid content straight from the Marvel template.
- piva00 10y agoI'm with you on the Marvel side, even more because they really push the formulaic cross-referencing of characters/situations. I can remember one line in "Luke Cage" from Barnett saying "I'm going back to Hell's Kitchen", sounds very cheesy in that context and kinda broke the suspension of disbelief when watching, even though I think that "Luke Cage" is one of the best Marvel series on Netflix right now.
- zimzam 10y agoWhat's cheesy about that line? Hell's Kitchen is a real neighborhood in NYC.
- rottyguy 10y agoexcept that hardly any of it portrays Hell's Kitchen NYC. The bar Luke owns, is actually in Alphabet City, NYC. Though I get that saying "I'm going back to ABC" doesn't have the same tone.
- panzagl 10y agoI assume because Hell's Kitchen is Daredevil's territory, so it's a thinly veiled announcement of a crossover
- Raknarg 10y agoI only like the marvel shows cause they have interesting villains, and they all seem to actually be leading to something cool, they tie together neatly. My only hope is that we get more Fisk.
- btschaegg 10y agoWhole-heartedly agree. D’Onofrio is a ridiculously good cast for Kingpin.
- maxerickson 10y agoMarvel thinks the world building has contributed to the success of their movies so of course they are going to do it on television. (many of the Netflix actors have contract clauses for appearances in movies)
- untog 10y agoOh, I know. And I'm sure they're right. But as someone who has largely given up on the Marvel movies because they're too much effort for too little payoff, I'm dreading the day I can no longer understand Jessica Jones fully without also watching three ancillary shows and one unified ensamble show beforehand.
- teh_klev 10y ago> I'm dreading the day I can no longer understand Jessica Jones fully without also watching three ancillary shows and one unified ensamble show beforehand. Heh this! When I started watching Agents of Shield, whether intended or not, I found the first season somewhat hard to penetrate. I ended up having to hit up Wikipedia, get my head around the Marvel Universe timeline and then watch relevant movies so I could slot in where AoS picks up its part of the Marvel Universe story. I'm pretty sure all this is a dream come true for Marvel fans, but you can get too much of a good thing, and I now have Marvel-fatigue.