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Programming is nothing special. You're an employee just like any other.

piptastic 10y ago
I don't think that's 100% true. It's like hiring an NFL player.. you get the talent you pay for (sometimes)
lostboys67 10y ago
So you think a professional job is exactly the same as working on a supermarket checkout? An attitude like that will get you filtered out as not a culture match in a lot of places.
- _pmf_ 10y ago
  > So you think a professional job is exactly the same as working on a supermarket checkout? > An attitude like that will get you filtered out as not a culture match in a lot of places. There are people who are able to work with people who do not much their culture perfectly, you know. There are even people who like working with people of differing experience levels instead of perpetuating their frat boy days well into their thirties; do you believe it?
  - lostboys67 10y ago
    Oh dear sounds like you have missed some of the subtle clues here. Wasn't taking about your "ethnic" culture. It's the unwritten rules of professional jobs i.e. read a broadsheet and not a tabloid paper - this is what the infamous "The Unofficial Goldman Sachs Guide To Being A Man" is all about. BTW I went to a bog standard comprehensive and did not go to Uni
- typon 10y ago
  I wish this culture would die. The sooner we realize that most programming is a skills trade and not a profession, the better it will be for the industry.
  - lostboys67 10y ago
    What "culture" is this and Why would having our profession degraded and reduced in status help anyone except the employer. Would you suggest a surgeon is just a tradesman after it just cutting meat so its totally like a butcher.
    - smoyer 10y ago
      Except that the butcher can't put what he's cut back together again.
      - lostboys67 10y ago
        I think you just made my point for me
    - typon 10y ago
      I'm advocating for humility, which should result in a net increase in prestige for programming, not the other way around.

I don't think that's 100% true. It's like hiring an NFL player.. you get the talent you pay for (sometimes)

So you think a professional job is exactly the same as working on a supermarket checkout? An attitude like that will get you filtered out as not a culture match in a lot of places.

_pmf_ 10y ago
> So you think a professional job is exactly the same as working on a supermarket checkout? > An attitude like that will get you filtered out as not a culture match in a lot of places. There are people who are able to work with people who do not much their culture perfectly, you know. There are even people who like working with people of differing experience levels instead of perpetuating their frat boy days well into their thirties; do you believe it?
- lostboys67 10y ago
  Oh dear sounds like you have missed some of the subtle clues here. Wasn't taking about your "ethnic" culture. It's the unwritten rules of professional jobs i.e. read a broadsheet and not a tabloid paper - this is what the infamous "The Unofficial Goldman Sachs Guide To Being A Man" is all about. BTW I went to a bog standard comprehensive and did not go to Uni
typon 10y ago
I wish this culture would die. The sooner we realize that most programming is a skills trade and not a profession, the better it will be for the industry.
- lostboys67 10y ago
  What "culture" is this and Why would having our profession degraded and reduced in status help anyone except the employer. Would you suggest a surgeon is just a tradesman after it just cutting meat so its totally like a butcher.
  - smoyer 10y ago
    Except that the butcher can't put what he's cut back together again.
    - lostboys67 10y ago
      I think you just made my point for me
  - typon 10y ago
    I'm advocating for humility, which should result in a net increase in prestige for programming, not the other way around.