> I only see worries on sites like HN. Most people still don't see the catastrophy in it. I'm not in the US. I have actually been very impressed by the outspok

> I only see worries on sites like HN. Most people still don't see the catastrophy in it. I'm not in the US. I have actually been very impressed by the outspoken actions of anti-Trump people in the US, with the massive protests and constant (well-deserved) media scrutiny. Also I never knew I could have so much respect for Hawaiian judges. Why they didn't bother to vote is beyond me, though. Trump is a buffoon, but he was able to successfully motivate other buffoons to actually vote. I did hear the description of their vote as being force to choose "between a disaster and a catastrophe" though, so that might go some way to explaining it.