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What amazes me is that the vulnerabilities have been known for many months yet haven't been patched. Maybe I shouldn't be too surprised. I bought a Dropcam two

by patwolf 10y ago

What amazes me is that the vulnerabilities have been known for many months yet haven't been patched. Maybe I shouldn't be too surprised. I bought a Dropcam two years ago before Nest/Google acquired them. It worked fine for a while, but since being acquired the app and reliability has gotten worse and worse to the point that I no longer use it because it's too flaky. Based on that and everything else I read about the company, it seems that they're severely mismanaged.

seanp2k2 10y ago
Nest hasn't done anything significant since the smoke alarm. I'm really not sure how their leadership maintains employment. They launched that in October 2013. What company can go for 3 1/2 years, 3 of those with Google money, and do so little? There are tons of opportunities for them to launch e.g. A real home security system with window sensors, locks, a 24x7 monitoring service, more smart home devices / integrations... The smoke alarm wasn't even a good idea. A smoke alarm is a device you hope to never have to use. It's like making a smart fire extinguisher, or a AED with Siri integration. Really unimpressed with Nest as a company.
- detaro 10y ago
  > The smoke alarm wasn't even a good idea. A smoke alarm is a device you hope to never have to use. Why does that make a smoke alarm a bad idea as a product?
  - dawnerd 10y ago
    To add to what you said, you should be using your alarms regularly to make sure they still work...
- tacomonstrous 10y ago
  My Nest smoke alarm actually justified its value a couple of weeks ago: We were out in town when it let me know that there was CO in the house. We were able to rush back and turn off the leaking gas stove before things got out of hand. I think the peace of mind that this now gives me is extremely valuable.
  - dawnerd 10y ago
    Interesting. I wonder if there's any connected valves that could auto shut off gas to the house if the smoke or co alarms go off?
pfarnsworth 10y ago
I exactly felt this way until spring of last year, when the founder was fired. After that, there has been really great, killer-app features which make me love my Nest again. They have human-detection, which is critical for security, and it really useful. I don't look at any alerts that say "Nest has detected a human", etc. And the app has gotten pretty decent. You can scroll through a lot of footage very quickly, or look only at the footage where an alert was generated. Overall, I think the Nest has gone from frustratingly useless to really great since earlier last year.

by patwolf 10y ago

seanp2k2 10y ago

Nest hasn't done anything significant since the smoke alarm. I'm really not sure how their leadership maintains employment. They launched that in October 2013. What company can go for 3 1/2 years, 3 of those with Google money, and do so little? There are tons of opportunities for them to launch e.g. A real home security system with window sensors, locks, a 24x7 monitoring service, more smart home devices / integrations... The smoke alarm wasn't even a good idea. A smoke alarm is a device you hope to never have to use. It's like making a smart fire extinguisher, or a AED with Siri integration. Really unimpressed with Nest as a company.

detaro 10y ago
> The smoke alarm wasn't even a good idea. A smoke alarm is a device you hope to never have to use. Why does that make a smoke alarm a bad idea as a product?
- dawnerd 10y ago
  To add to what you said, you should be using your alarms regularly to make sure they still work...
tacomonstrous 10y ago
My Nest smoke alarm actually justified its value a couple of weeks ago: We were out in town when it let me know that there was CO in the house. We were able to rush back and turn off the leaking gas stove before things got out of hand. I think the peace of mind that this now gives me is extremely valuable.
- dawnerd 10y ago
  Interesting. I wonder if there's any connected valves that could auto shut off gas to the house if the smoke or co alarms go off?

pfarnsworth 10y ago

I exactly felt this way until spring of last year, when the founder was fired. After that, there has been really great, killer-app features which make me love my Nest again. They have human-detection, which is critical for security, and it really useful. I don't look at any alerts that say "Nest has detected a human", etc. And the app has gotten pretty decent. You can scroll through a lot of footage very quickly, or look only at the footage where an alert was generated. Overall, I think the Nest has gone from frustratingly useless to really great since earlier last year.