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The first two are simply embarrassing. Google paid 3 Billion for this stuff? Does anyone do QA any more? Especially for a device you use for a security purpose,

The first two are simply embarrassing. Google paid 3 Billion for this stuff? Does anyone do QA any more? Especially for a device you use for a security purpose, you'd think bugs like this would be not only found, but designed to not happen in the first place.

stevenwoo 10y ago
I live near the Nest main office on Foothill Expressway. There used to be a signficant amount of cars there on the weekends. That is no longer true.
- yuhong 10y ago
  This reminds me of these Twitter threads: https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/829072680389267456 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/829072680389267456 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/832053404553744385 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/832053404553744385 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/844049570640285696 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/844049570640285696 (Ryan Hurst joined Google around the time they split Nest into Alphabet)
- tblair 10y ago
  I know you're implying that they don't care anymore, but I think over-working leads to fatigue and rush jobs/corner cutting, which is a great way to end up with security flaws.
- bitmapbrother 10y ago
  That's because Tony Fadell made them work on the weekends. If you're forcing your employees to work on the weekends, on a regular basis, then something is very wrong - which probably explains why he's no longer at Nest.
icantdrive55 10y ago
The money being thrown around is amazing. I remember the president of Honeywell was interviewed. I belive about the buyout of Nest? He said something like, 'They could have bought our company for this amount?' He was truely stunned. It was that look of true amazement. Personally, the one that still sticks with me is the sale of Beats Headphones. I don't even want to look it up, but I couldn't figure out why anyone would pay so much. There's probally something I'm missing? Initially I thought they were trying to capture a new market/demographics, but really don't have a clue.
asafira 10y ago
Yes, Google paid the entirety of 3 billion dollars for specifically the lines of code that are vulnerable. Sigh. Clickbait article, "Read"-bait comment.
- setr 10y ago
  > "Read"-bait comment. Can't think of a good wordplay but it's more 'upvote'-baiting imo
  - asafira 10y ago
    Sounds good to me.
ThrowawayR2 10y ago
> Does anyone do QA any more? -QA pays much less, even for technically demanding roles like embedded systems SDET. -There's little to no career growth for QA. -QA is the first to be let go during layoffs. -Developers routinely trash-talk QA people. And, thus, it should hardly be a surprise that teams keep releasing products that cause people to ask "Does anyone do QA any more?"
Johnny555 10y ago
The third flaw is endemic to Wifi, and it's so easy to execute with off-the-shelf tools that the more esoteric attacks hardly make the camera security any worse. Anyone that cares about security uses hard-wired cameras.

stevenwoo 10y ago

I live near the Nest main office on Foothill Expressway. There used to be a signficant amount of cars there on the weekends. That is no longer true.

yuhong 10y ago
This reminds me of these Twitter threads: https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/829072680389267456 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/829072680389267456 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/832053404553744385 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/832053404553744385 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/844049570640285696 https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/844049570640285696 (Ryan Hurst joined Google around the time they split Nest into Alphabet)
tblair 10y ago
I know you're implying that they don't care anymore, but I think over-working leads to fatigue and rush jobs/corner cutting, which is a great way to end up with security flaws.
bitmapbrother 10y ago
That's because Tony Fadell made them work on the weekends. If you're forcing your employees to work on the weekends, on a regular basis, then something is very wrong - which probably explains why he's no longer at Nest.

icantdrive55 10y ago

The money being thrown around is amazing. I remember the president of Honeywell was interviewed. I belive about the buyout of Nest? He said something like, 'They could have bought our company for this amount?' He was truely stunned. It was that look of true amazement. Personally, the one that still sticks with me is the sale of Beats Headphones. I don't even want to look it up, but I couldn't figure out why anyone would pay so much. There's probally something I'm missing? Initially I thought they were trying to capture a new market/demographics, but really don't have a clue.

asafira 10y ago

Yes, Google paid the entirety of 3 billion dollars for specifically the lines of code that are vulnerable. Sigh. Clickbait article, "Read"-bait comment.

setr 10y ago
> "Read"-bait comment. Can't think of a good wordplay but it's more 'upvote'-baiting imo
- asafira 10y ago
  Sounds good to me.

ThrowawayR2 10y ago

> Does anyone do QA any more? -QA pays much less, even for technically demanding roles like embedded systems SDET. -There's little to no career growth for QA. -QA is the first to be let go during layoffs. -Developers routinely trash-talk QA people. And, thus, it should hardly be a surprise that teams keep releasing products that cause people to ask "Does anyone do QA any more?"

Johnny555 10y ago

The third flaw is endemic to Wifi, and it's so easy to execute with off-the-shelf tools that the more esoteric attacks hardly make the camera security any worse. Anyone that cares about security uses hard-wired cameras.