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Let's take a look at America: They spy on you, regardless of if you live in the country or not, committing global espionage[0][1] They do not observe human ri
by yomly 10y ago
Let's take a look at America:
They spy on you, regardless of if you live in the country or not, committing global espionage[0][1]
They do not observe human rights when imprisoning you [2][3]
They are happy to bomb civilians using automated robots in the name of freedom and enlisting you to their brand of freedom[4]
They are happy to arm terrorists then assassinate them when they are no longer relevant to their cause[5]
They will wage illegal wars when it is convenient for them[6]
They were happy to obliterate people's homes to conduct nuclear tests in the name of freedom[7]
They institutionally protect the interests of the people with the most access to wealth[8]
They have elected a narcissistic nepotistic sexist bigot for their president, and do not have free healthcare [no citations necessary]
I'm not here to spark a tally of which country has committed more atrocities or which country is better - the world is simply a dirty place, and to this day, humans are still as capable of committing human on human sin.
China is no doubt guilty of many crimes too but I find China bashing by other countries reeking of hypocrisy and evidence that our own nations' propaganda machines are well oiled and in full-throttle.
The victor writes history.
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/08/wikileaks-revelations-intelligence-services-using-home-devices-to-watch-citizens https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/08/wikile...
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/08/wikileaks-revelations-intelligence-services-using-home-devices-to-watch-citizens https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/08/wikile...
[2] http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/10/23/marion_prison_lockdown_thomas_silverstein_how_a_1983_murder_created_america.html http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/10/23/marion_prison_lo...
[3] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/guantanamo-bay-why-was-it-set-up-what-are-the-controversies-and-why-is-obama-looking-to-close-the-a6891516.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/guantanamo-...
[4] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-obama-administrations-drone-strike-dissembling/473541/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-oba...
[5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_...
[6]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-john-prescott-says-tony-blair-led-uk-into-illegal-war-in-iraq-a7129106.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report...
[7]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/06/marshall-islands-nuclear-arms-lawsuit-thrown-out-by-uns-top-court https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/06/marshall-islan...
[8]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13925858 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13925858
EDIT: added an additional point
- jldugger 10y agoWe can (and should) complain about this, but the sins of another do not dismiss your own.
- yomly 10y agoYeah - as I said, I'm not saying China is without sin. I just find China bashing to really be nothing more than an exercise of "pulling the ladder up". Europe was perfectly happy colonising the world in its heyday, as was America in the past. Now that they've entrenched their position in the world, suddenly it's not ok when other people are trying to climb the ladder.
- kitschshrine 10y agouh, this is 2017, not 1930s. let's judge China by today's standard. You can't absolve a sin from someone today because someone else "used to do it" 100 years ago
- jahnu 10y agoYou are implying that China _must_ behave this way in order to become a developed country and then they can adjust to modern standards. Seems silly to me.
- imjustsaying 10y ago>They ...do not have free healthcare [no citations necessary] When I lived and worked in China, for a government entity, the insurance didn't cover anything I ever needed it for and I had to pay out of pocket 100% of the time for all costs. The private healthcare industry is exploding in China right now because the public healthcare system is inadequate. There is no such thing as free healthcare. Even if you install single payer and ration health supplies to the extent more people die on waiting lists like in Canada, the government will still be paying for the little care that remains through your own taxes or debt obligations. More enlightenment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peVLkW7uirI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peVLkW7uirI
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