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The 'Uber Driver' may not be at fault, however the car failed to prevent or avoid an accident. It suddenly appears self-driving cars are no safer than human dri

by Preemo 10y ago

The 'Uber Driver' may not be at fault, however the car failed to prevent or avoid an accident. It suddenly appears self-driving cars are no safer than human driven cars. Of course these are purely speculations but valid points. Interesting to see it's flipped itself somehow, too, I wonder what the computer decided to do that it maybe shouldn't have done? I suspect Uber will keep very quiet on this one, as there's all kinds of assumptions to be made.

notahacker 10y ago
There's also a difference between the other driver being responsible for the incident because they failed to yield and pulled out in a dangerous and illegal manner and it not being possible the Uber vehicle could have responded better to the other car's dangerous driving.
- ghaff 10y ago
  One would need to know more details. Yields in particular is one area where, under many conditions, you have to expect drivers to do reasonable things. Of course, you don't expect a driver to just blow through a yield sign. But maybe the driver with the right of way slows down a bit or changes lanes to let someone in or because they see someone edging out into traffic.
  - tanin 10y ago
    During the behind-the-wheel test, I slowed down toward the 4-way junction in which I had the right of way. The examiner marked it as a minor mistake; He told me that I could get rear end for that. I didn't argue with him as he was the examiner. But I'd prefer 10 rear ends over one t-bone. When implementing a self-driving car, I'm not sure if we can explicitly write code that is against the DMV guidelines. For example, human seems to slow down at the junction even with the right of way and drive 5mph over the speed limit.
36bydesignBL 10y ago
"It suddenly appears self-driving cars are no safer than human driven cars," says the guy who just read an article about a crash caused by a human while a self-driving car was not at fault.
- Preemo 10y ago
  You quoted me out-of-context.

by Preemo 10y ago

notahacker 10y ago

There's also a difference between the other driver being responsible for the incident because they failed to yield and pulled out in a dangerous and illegal manner and it not being possible the Uber vehicle could have responded better to the other car's dangerous driving.

ghaff 10y ago
One would need to know more details. Yields in particular is one area where, under many conditions, you have to expect drivers to do reasonable things. Of course, you don't expect a driver to just blow through a yield sign. But maybe the driver with the right of way slows down a bit or changes lanes to let someone in or because they see someone edging out into traffic.
- tanin 10y ago
  During the behind-the-wheel test, I slowed down toward the 4-way junction in which I had the right of way. The examiner marked it as a minor mistake; He told me that I could get rear end for that. I didn't argue with him as he was the examiner. But I'd prefer 10 rear ends over one t-bone. When implementing a self-driving car, I'm not sure if we can explicitly write code that is against the DMV guidelines. For example, human seems to slow down at the junction even with the right of way and drive 5mph over the speed limit.

36bydesignBL 10y ago

"It suddenly appears self-driving cars are no safer than human driven cars," says the guy who just read an article about a crash caused by a human while a self-driving car was not at fault.

Preemo 10y ago
You quoted me out-of-context.