What I believe or not is completely irrelevant - that's an attempt on your behalf of re-framing what I said, and I reject it. If you want a serious informed di

What I believe or not is completely irrelevant - that's an attempt on your behalf of re-framing what I said, and I reject it. If you want a serious informed discussion on these issues, find some reasonably impartial and factual sources with real figures, not op-ed pieces from your favourite partisan publications. If you don't have time to provide sources, then I'd suggest not talking about the topic since you're ill-equipped to discuss it.