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Yet thats what happens and why women at some places have pushed for gender neutral bathrooms. So yes it makes perfect sense.

tptacek 10y ago
What's your point? As I said upthread: businesses that have a pattern of making important business decisions in the men's bathrooms do in fact have a gender discrimination problem, and will in fact be shouldering legal liabilities for allowing it to persist.
- ThomPete 10y ago
  My point is that you are confusing things. Neither a visit to a stripclub by a bunch of colleagues nor a gender divided bathroom means that there is any discrimination happening and that if we are to follow your logic a lot of things would be called discrimination which luckily they don't.
  - tptacek 10y ago
    So far you haven't provided an example of something similar that is "luckily not considered discrimination". The one example you have provided is in fact (and has in the real world been) grounds for a discrimination claim.
    - ThomPete 10y ago
      Which doesent make it that anymore than playing soccer or golf in a countryclub does.
      - tptacek 10y ago
        Conducting business within your company in the context of a men's only sporting league or athletic club is also clearly legally problematic.
        ThomPete 10y ago
        And since a stripclub is not mens only and you have no indication what so ever that they were conducting business there, quite the opposite actually, your whole attempt to show that this could be sexism falls flat. You are basically just saying everything can potentially be considered sexist. Which is a quite trivial claim and has nothing to do with this discussion
        tptacek 10y ago
        I can't find anything new to respond to in this comment so am content to let the discussion rest here.
        ThomPete 10y ago
        And as long as the article doesn't even remotely support some of the reasons you gave for why going to the stripclub should be considered sexist I think that would be wise.

tptacek 10y ago

What's your point? As I said upthread: businesses that have a pattern of making important business decisions in the men's bathrooms do in fact have a gender discrimination problem, and will in fact be shouldering legal liabilities for allowing it to persist.

ThomPete 10y ago
My point is that you are confusing things. Neither a visit to a stripclub by a bunch of colleagues nor a gender divided bathroom means that there is any discrimination happening and that if we are to follow your logic a lot of things would be called discrimination which luckily they don't.
- tptacek 10y ago
  So far you haven't provided an example of something similar that is "luckily not considered discrimination". The one example you have provided is in fact (and has in the real world been) grounds for a discrimination claim.
  - ThomPete 10y ago
    Which doesent make it that anymore than playing soccer or golf in a countryclub does.
    - tptacek 10y ago
      Conducting business within your company in the context of a men's only sporting league or athletic club is also clearly legally problematic.
      - ThomPete 10y ago
        And since a stripclub is not mens only and you have no indication what so ever that they were conducting business there, quite the opposite actually, your whole attempt to show that this could be sexism falls flat. You are basically just saying everything can potentially be considered sexist. Which is a quite trivial claim and has nothing to do with this discussion
        tptacek 10y ago
        I can't find anything new to respond to in this comment so am content to let the discussion rest here.
        ThomPete 10y ago
        And as long as the article doesn't even remotely support some of the reasons you gave for why going to the stripclub should be considered sexist I think that would be wise.