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Why deal with these issues when there are great Windows 10 options from many vendors?

by Prego 10y ago

askmike 10y ago
I rather move to linux than to Windows, I'd say I am definitely not the only developer to say so.
- kogepathic 10y ago
  > I rather move to linux than to Windows I use Linux daily on my desktop. Never really liked Windows because cmd was always a terrible cripple compared to *NIX. But recently I've heard very good things from people about the new Linux subsystem in Windows 10. There's still a lot of software that doesn't run on Linux (e.g. management utilities for enterprise systems, old/obscure utilities) even in WINE. Can anyone who regularly uses Linux comment on how it is to us the Linux subsystem on Windows? It is good enough or still rough on the edges?
  - bitexploder 10y ago
    Vmware workstation... :)
  - Baeocystin 10y ago
    It is far better than it has any right to be, considering the work they have to do in the background to get it to live happily in NTFS. It still has a way to go, but you can get real work done. My Linux-of-choice remains Ubuntu on a VM on my Surface, but having the subsystem installed as well is nice. If they keep at it, I can see ditching the VM in a few more revs. X doesn't officially work yet, although you can hack around and get it kinda-sorta going.
GhostVII 10y ago
Because unix
motoboi 10y ago
The real stopper is the unix-like environment. With MacOS you have (or used to have) a very good UI environment, but could just open a terminal and have all the unix goodness. I know windows have a terminal too, but apart from being black, they are completely different. PowerShell was promising but cannot (IMHO) replace the old fashioned Bourne Again Shell. All this makes sad, because my MBP is quite old and the prospect of having to deal with windows again just makes me cry.
- matthewking 10y ago
  Windows 10 has a bash shell now via WSL (Windows subsystem for Linux): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux
uptownJimmy 10y ago
"Why deal with these issues when there are great Windows 10 options from many vendors?" Because the Win10 environment is pretty shoddy, in general. And it's not a secret, so your question is surprising. The OP talks about random bits and pieces of non-functional software and hardware, and all I could think of was Win10 on a "nice" laptop. It's pretty regularly an awful, hair-pulling experience, on any average day.
jalada 10y ago
Not an option for anyone developing MacOS, iOS, or WatchOS apps.
valuearb 10y ago
I have Windows 10 and Unix and MacOSX on my MBP. My least favorite choice is Windows.

Why deal with these issues when there are great Windows 10 options from many vendors?

by Prego 10y ago

Why deal with these issues when there are great Windows 10 options from many vendors?

askmike 10y ago

I rather move to linux than to Windows, I'd say I am definitely not the only developer to say so.

kogepathic 10y ago
> I rather move to linux than to Windows I use Linux daily on my desktop. Never really liked Windows because cmd was always a terrible cripple compared to *NIX. But recently I've heard very good things from people about the new Linux subsystem in Windows 10. There's still a lot of software that doesn't run on Linux (e.g. management utilities for enterprise systems, old/obscure utilities) even in WINE. Can anyone who regularly uses Linux comment on how it is to us the Linux subsystem on Windows? It is good enough or still rough on the edges?
- bitexploder 10y ago
  Vmware workstation... :)
- Baeocystin 10y ago
  It is far better than it has any right to be, considering the work they have to do in the background to get it to live happily in NTFS. It still has a way to go, but you can get real work done. My Linux-of-choice remains Ubuntu on a VM on my Surface, but having the subsystem installed as well is nice. If they keep at it, I can see ditching the VM in a few more revs. X doesn't officially work yet, although you can hack around and get it kinda-sorta going.

GhostVII 10y ago

Because unix

motoboi 10y ago

The real stopper is the unix-like environment. With MacOS you have (or used to have) a very good UI environment, but could just open a terminal and have all the unix goodness. I know windows have a terminal too, but apart from being black, they are completely different. PowerShell was promising but cannot (IMHO) replace the old fashioned Bourne Again Shell. All this makes sad, because my MBP is quite old and the prospect of having to deal with windows again just makes me cry.

matthewking 10y ago
Windows 10 has a bash shell now via WSL (Windows subsystem for Linux): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux

uptownJimmy 10y ago

"Why deal with these issues when there are great Windows 10 options from many vendors?" Because the Win10 environment is pretty shoddy, in general. And it's not a secret, so your question is surprising. The OP talks about random bits and pieces of non-functional software and hardware, and all I could think of was Win10 on a "nice" laptop. It's pretty regularly an awful, hair-pulling experience, on any average day.

jalada 10y ago

Not an option for anyone developing MacOS, iOS, or WatchOS apps.

valuearb 10y ago

I have Windows 10 and Unix and MacOSX on my MBP. My least favorite choice is Windows.