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Moto G4 + Cyanogenmod + only the apps you want mostly ticks your boxes. After all, "being in charge" doesn't mean "my phone decides what I'm (not) allowed to do

Moto G4 + Cyanogenmod + only the apps you want mostly ticks your boxes. After all, "being in charge" doesn't mean "my phone decides what I'm (not) allowed to do". Not sure if "find my phone" can ever be compatible with "fiercely anti-snoop". At least, you'll need to provide (and secure) your own server.

ino 10y ago
After moto g2 I'm never ever buying a motorolla phone again. Ever. Constant crashes, hangups, it takes 5 minutes to power on. I'm not alone, the internet is filled with people having the same issues. The updates to newer android versions made everything even worse. Worst phone ever, and I bought it because os the astroturfing on the internet.
- motog4user 10y ago
  Moto G4 32gb owner. Cheap reliable, fast. Battery is good. Now with Android 7... Best bang for my bucks yet.
  - tremendo 10y ago
    You're obviously peddling the phone (your username, 2-hrs-old account). But I want to know, how you have Android 7 on the G4? mine has 6.0.1 and there are no pending updates. Other than that, very happy with this phone.
    - puetzk 10y ago
      Probably https://download.lineageos.org/athene https://download.lineageos.org/athene / http://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/athene/ http://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/athene/ (LineageOS is the successor to CyanogenMod). That supports Android 7.1 on lots of devices the manufacturers don't (I have it on a 1st-generation Moto G).
    - motog4user 10y ago
      Exactly, just reacting to the parent thread... Standard update. I'm not in US though. Maybe Lenovo is releasing the update progressively.
- dageshi 10y ago
  Had that phone, worked fine. Gave it to my dad, still works fine. My brother bought one, his works fine, he still has it. I now have a g4, that works fine.
jansho 10y ago
Lots of interesting responses here, thank you all. I want to clarify that in my parent post, I was only brainstorming the ideal features of a (not necessarily cheap) sophisticated dumb phone, from my perspective. Other people may have different basic needs – I suggested in a later post (probably nested at the bottom now) that perhaps a modular approach could be a workaround; the customer can opt to add (program in) extra features to this most basic phone, if they so wish to. As some of you have noticed, there are contradictions in my wish list, but that’s OK – if this idea is to be taken further, then for sure there will be many iterations before the optimum design can be found. There’ll be some compromises, but I’m confident that with our current (and future) technologies, ticking off that list may not be as hard as it sounds. The way I see it, this new kind of phone doesn’t really belong to the general trend: decades ago, we started with really dumb, clunky phones, then gradually phones get more sophisticated to the extent that most of our lives are centred around it – the trend is almost logical and linear, and you can reasonably anticipate the next generation. But this one is more like a niche branching off it. As some of you have pointed out, why not just get a basic phone and make sure that you don’t bloat it? Completely valid point. But I’m a typical millennial: I want control and minimalism, but I also want it to be pretty. You know, a ruthlessly stripped down phone, combined with sensitively designed UX, Apple aesthetics and a swish of 2020 originality. And super-powers, like advanced voice recognition, materials, encryption and so on. Yeah it’ll be cheap … This phone is defined JUST phone. It’s a new philosophy, where it bypasses the overwhelming mass of technology options today by just sticking to the fundamental purpose of the tool, and keeps covering your ass in emergencies. It’s an OCD-ish dream of a lifestyle, where you are in control, in the moment, while remaining chic. You can call it a new vanity if you like.

ino 10y ago

After moto g2 I'm never ever buying a motorolla phone again. Ever. Constant crashes, hangups, it takes 5 minutes to power on. I'm not alone, the internet is filled with people having the same issues. The updates to newer android versions made everything even worse. Worst phone ever, and I bought it because os the astroturfing on the internet.

motog4user 10y ago
Moto G4 32gb owner. Cheap reliable, fast. Battery is good. Now with Android 7... Best bang for my bucks yet.
- tremendo 10y ago
  You're obviously peddling the phone (your username, 2-hrs-old account). But I want to know, how you have Android 7 on the G4? mine has 6.0.1 and there are no pending updates. Other than that, very happy with this phone.
  - puetzk 10y ago
    Probably https://download.lineageos.org/athene https://download.lineageos.org/athene / http://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/athene/ http://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/athene/ (LineageOS is the successor to CyanogenMod). That supports Android 7.1 on lots of devices the manufacturers don't (I have it on a 1st-generation Moto G).
  - motog4user 10y ago
    Exactly, just reacting to the parent thread... Standard update. I'm not in US though. Maybe Lenovo is releasing the update progressively.
dageshi 10y ago
Had that phone, worked fine. Gave it to my dad, still works fine. My brother bought one, his works fine, he still has it. I now have a g4, that works fine.

jansho 10y ago

Lots of interesting responses here, thank you all. I want to clarify that in my parent post, I was only brainstorming the ideal features of a (not necessarily cheap) sophisticated dumb phone, from my perspective. Other people may have different basic needs – I suggested in a later post (probably nested at the bottom now) that perhaps a modular approach could be a workaround; the customer can opt to add (program in) extra features to this most basic phone, if they so wish to. As some of you have noticed, there are contradictions in my wish list, but that’s OK – if this idea is to be taken further, then for sure there will be many iterations before the optimum design can be found. There’ll be some compromises, but I’m confident that with our current (and future) technologies, ticking off that list may not be as hard as it sounds. The way I see it, this new kind of phone doesn’t really belong to the general trend: decades ago, we started with really dumb, clunky phones, then gradually phones get more sophisticated to the extent that most of our lives are centred around it – the trend is almost logical and linear, and you can reasonably anticipate the next generation. But this one is more like a niche branching off it. As some of you have pointed out, why not just get a basic phone and make sure that you don’t bloat it? Completely valid point. But I’m a typical millennial: I want control and minimalism, but I also want it to be pretty. You know, a ruthlessly stripped down phone, combined with sensitively designed UX, Apple aesthetics and a swish of 2020 originality. And super-powers, like advanced voice recognition, materials, encryption and so on. Yeah it’ll be cheap … This phone is defined JUST phone. It’s a new philosophy, where it bypasses the overwhelming mass of technology options today by just sticking to the fundamental purpose of the tool, and keeps covering your ass in emergencies. It’s an OCD-ish dream of a lifestyle, where you are in control, in the moment, while remaining chic. You can call it a new vanity if you like.