4 ms·

The batteries become crappy after a few years. And since they cannot be replaced..

by maaaats 10y ago

culturestate 10y ago
"Not user serviceable" != "non-replaceable." Apple is happy to replace your iPhone battery for around $80.
- HeavenBanned 10y ago
  I tried replacing my iPhone 5S battery for 15 bucks from a popular kit off of Amazon. Ended up bricking my iPhone in the process. Just because you can afford to pony up $80+ dollars for voodoo-servicing doesn't mean that I should also subject myself to that bullshit. Apple could have made the replacement of batteries as easy as Blackberries, make no mistake about it. They just chose not too, and no amount of excuses and rationalizing will lead me to believe otherwise. If it's an engineering priority, it can be done. Battery-swapping was little-to-no priority (possibly even sabotaged, but what do I know?) so we are now left with this shitty state of affairs. Speaking of Blackberry-style battery-swapping, are there any smartphones today that afford that kind of flexibility? I'm still using my Bold 9930 and I don't really see any reason to leave it until things shape up in the smartphone market. [I'm going to have to Google it probably depending on how popular this gets.]
TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
What do you mean after a few years? Name one smartphone that doesn't have crappy battery life out of the goddamn box! Seriously smartphone manufacturers, stop trying to shave 3 yoctometers off the thickness every 6 months and give me a phone that is thicker but has a battery that lasts a reasonable amount of time and cycles less deeply so it has a longer life.
- umanwizard 10y ago
  iPhone battery capacity: 4 - 1420 mAh 4s - 1432 mAh 5 - 1440 mAh 5s - 1570 mAh 6 - 1810 mAh 6s - 1715 mAh 7 - 1960 mAh It dipped a bit from 6 to 6s but other than that they have been consistently increasing battery capacity. (Btw, plus models have more; the iPhone 7+ for example has 2900 mAh. On the other hand, they drain more for the screen.)
  - legulere 10y ago
    Also interesting is the SE, that has the same form factor as the 5s: SE - 1624 mAh
    - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
      You're talking about an increase of 54 mAh. I can't see that saving the day.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
    I don't see how this refutes my claim that, in my opinion, there isn't a smartphone that has reasonable mileage on a single charge. Battery capacity increases alone are meaningless when the hardware connected to it drains it just the same.
- valuearb 10y ago
  Get a battery case. The world has spoken bad rejected thicker heavier longer battery life phones. Thinner, lighter is easier to carry and use.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
    When you find yourself agreeing with everyone in the room it's time to leave. What were these thicker heavier longer life phones of which you speak? I don't recall there being any of those to have rejected. Maybe you mean ye olde feature phones or their predecessors. I don't think that's a fair comparison.
- jonathansizz 10y ago
  The Moto Z Play, with its combination of 3510 mAh battery, Snapdragon 625 processor and 1080p screen has great battery life. Add in a power pack Moto Mod if you need even more. It's a mid-range phone for a mid-range price (and so comes with tradeoffs), but it's a solid phone and for battery life it's excellent. Mine just got the Android 7 upgrade too.

The batteries become crappy after a few years. And since they cannot be replaced..

by maaaats 10y ago

The batteries become crappy after a few years. And since they cannot be replaced..

culturestate 10y ago

"Not user serviceable" != "non-replaceable." Apple is happy to replace your iPhone battery for around $80.

HeavenBanned 10y ago
I tried replacing my iPhone 5S battery for 15 bucks from a popular kit off of Amazon. Ended up bricking my iPhone in the process. Just because you can afford to pony up $80+ dollars for voodoo-servicing doesn't mean that I should also subject myself to that bullshit. Apple could have made the replacement of batteries as easy as Blackberries, make no mistake about it. They just chose not too, and no amount of excuses and rationalizing will lead me to believe otherwise. If it's an engineering priority, it can be done. Battery-swapping was little-to-no priority (possibly even sabotaged, but what do I know?) so we are now left with this shitty state of affairs. Speaking of Blackberry-style battery-swapping, are there any smartphones today that afford that kind of flexibility? I'm still using my Bold 9930 and I don't really see any reason to leave it until things shape up in the smartphone market. [I'm going to have to Google it probably depending on how popular this gets.]

TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago

What do you mean after a few years? Name one smartphone that doesn't have crappy battery life out of the goddamn box! Seriously smartphone manufacturers, stop trying to shave 3 yoctometers off the thickness every 6 months and give me a phone that is thicker but has a battery that lasts a reasonable amount of time and cycles less deeply so it has a longer life.

umanwizard 10y ago
iPhone battery capacity: 4 - 1420 mAh 4s - 1432 mAh 5 - 1440 mAh 5s - 1570 mAh 6 - 1810 mAh 6s - 1715 mAh 7 - 1960 mAh It dipped a bit from 6 to 6s but other than that they have been consistently increasing battery capacity. (Btw, plus models have more; the iPhone 7+ for example has 2900 mAh. On the other hand, they drain more for the screen.)
- legulere 10y ago
  Also interesting is the SE, that has the same form factor as the 5s: SE - 1624 mAh
  - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
    You're talking about an increase of 54 mAh. I can't see that saving the day.
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
  I don't see how this refutes my claim that, in my opinion, there isn't a smartphone that has reasonable mileage on a single charge. Battery capacity increases alone are meaningless when the hardware connected to it drains it just the same.
valuearb 10y ago
Get a battery case. The world has spoken bad rejected thicker heavier longer battery life phones. Thinner, lighter is easier to carry and use.
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
  When you find yourself agreeing with everyone in the room it's time to leave. What were these thicker heavier longer life phones of which you speak? I don't recall there being any of those to have rejected. Maybe you mean ye olde feature phones or their predecessors. I don't think that's a fair comparison.
jonathansizz 10y ago
The Moto Z Play, with its combination of 3510 mAh battery, Snapdragon 625 processor and 1080p screen has great battery life. Add in a power pack Moto Mod if you need even more. It's a mid-range phone for a mid-range price (and so comes with tradeoffs), but it's a solid phone and for battery life it's excellent. Mine just got the Android 7 upgrade too.