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Calling card
- gbog 10y agoInteresting article but it shows the cultural biais of Wikipedia, not a word about Asia where visiting cards might have been even more important to social interactions.
- icebraining 10y agoWell, of the English Wikipedia, rather. It'd be fun if articles had links to their equivalents in other languages, with automatic translation. A problem with Wikipedia is that each language is a separate silo, which lowers the value of an universal encyclopedia.
- vertex-four 10y agoLook in the sidebar - the Languages section.
- lemonad 10y ago(OT) I use that feature all the time when I know the name of, say, a mathematical term in one language but not in another.
- ithinkso 10y agoOh wow, this is the exact same use case for me. Other than that I prefer english one and rarely read articles in my own language.
- icebraining 10y agoOh, wow, thanks. I'd seen that, but assumed it was a link to the frontpage of each language. Still would like if it could offer an automatic translation.
- nicky0 10y agoBrowse with Chrome, job done.
- bunkat 10y agoWould be great if you took a few minutes to improve the article then. Reducing the cultural bias of Wikipedia happens the same way as improving Wikipedia in general, one article at a time.
- gbog 10y agoThanks, I did contribute to Wikipedia long ago (the article about Confucius still has some sequels of my edits), but it happens that I have not enough knowledge on this topic. To me, reminding about Wikipedia's cultural biais is necessary, because many people think it is reliable and complete.
- cooper12 10y agoAnyone interested in learning more about this cultural bias might find this essay helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Systemic_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Systemic_bias
- barnabes 10y agoIt's odd that in 2017 we are still having this debate. wiki welcomes you to improve the article. In fact that's the whole idea behind the site. It's odd that some users are still missing this use case in its entirety.
- DanBC 10y ago> wiki welcomes you Welcomes? Over the years there have been many projects to make Wikipedia more welcoming to newcomers, because WP recognised that the "don't bite the newbies" guidance is nto always followed. I don't know what it's like now. I'd be interested to see the results of surveys of new editors.
- barnabes 10y agoIt's those who complain about the quality of Wikipedia whom, in the same vein, complain it's hard for newbies to edit it. I've had edits rejected and I must say Wikipedia's 'assume good faith' policy makes it less hard on the newbie ego. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith Maybe newbie edits that don't cut the mark is one of the processes that attempt to drive the quality upward.
- reitanqild 10y agoDon't edit for the same reason I stay away from Stack Overflow as long as possible: Less chance of being bitten by people who seems to think they does the planet a service by rejecting and deleting content. I recognise this might only be a misunderstanding, I rarely get bitten myself but I have seen enough useful questions and answers being punished on SO and enough Meta discussions telling everyone how great this is to learn that the site is mostly not for me.
- kijin 10y agoThe article you're looking for is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_card https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_card It is a more general article on what we now call business cards, and contains a significant amount of information about the use of business cards in Japan and the etiquette involved. OP, on the other hand, is about a specific precursor to the modern business card that only existed in the West.
- stephengillie 10y agoMy uncle loved to give people his card. Just like any business man from the time, he would reach into his pocket during a lengthy conversation, saying "here, let me give you my card." Out would come this plain white business card, with 2 words printed: "My Card". He would perform this satire with the most grace and seriousness he could muster.
- gbog 10y ago"only existed in the West." Are you sure? I think I remember these mentionned in the vast Chinese classic litterature. It was the nearly the same usage: an expensive piece of parper with a name on it that was sent back and forth to prepare an irl meeting.
- nthcolumn 10y agoAn interesting comment but it shows the preferred language of the contributor. ;)
- k_sze 10y agoThis feels almost like SYN/ACK/NACK, but for people. Which means you could DDoS an aristocrat by sending them a lot of visiting cards.
- thedudemabry 10y agoMy first thought was that this would be an interesting protocol for calling someone. I often receive more annoying robocalls on my personal phone than welcomed calls from unknown numbers. My usual solution is to quickly google the number to see if any scam reports are available and then quickly answer if not. But I might start the practice of texting ahead of calling someone unfamiliar with a quick message like “This is John Smith's phone. I'll be calling shortly.” That way, I would ensure that my call was picked up or at least given the priority they prefer. Or maybe I'm just a weirdo that worries too much about the consequences of actually answering robocalls :)
- Nullabillity 10y ago> But I might start the practice of texting ahead of calling someone unfamiliar with a quick message like “This is John Smith's phone. I'll be calling shortly.” That way, I would ensure that my call was picked up or at least given the priority they prefer. Hitta.se (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.hitta.android.app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.hitta.andro...) will automatically look up the caller's name in the (equivalent of the) yellow pages. I assume there's an equivalent in most other countries?
- reitanqild 10y agoActually interesting: Around here we have a number of forward/reverse lookup services (I use 1881.no) but I have a hard time finding anything similar for other countries. Right now I am trying to look up what I believe is a Californian number but where do I find a usable phone registry for US?
- tgb 10y agoIsn't googling more work than answering and hanging up if it's a robot?
- davissorenson 10y agoInterestingly, while in English we now say "business card", it seems that at least Swedish and Finnish, and probably other languages too, retained some form of "visiting card". In Swedish "visitkort" and in Finnish "käyntikortti" (literally, visit card) are still the terms for business card in use today.
- Al-Khwarizmi 10y agoIn Spanish too. "Tarjeta de visita".
- siscia 10y agoIn Italy we have "biglietti da visita" which literally translate, as you may guess, in "visiting cards."
- FabHK 10y ago"Visitenkarte" in German (for both today's business card and the old style calling card).
- yoodenvranx 10y agoI like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Visiting_Card_of_Kaiser_Wilhelm.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Visiting_Card_of_Kaiser_W...
- lb1lf 10y agoI believe James Brown at one time had business cards printed with "himself" as title.
- nift 10y agoSame goes for Danish - visitkort as in Swedish
- reitanqild 10y agoLet me add Norwegian to the list as well, only with a double t in visitt (double because the vowel in front should have shorter pronunciation I think).
- dmix 10y ago> Sometimes the name of a gentlemen's club might be added, but addresses were not otherwise included. [..] The visiting card is no longer the universal feature of upper middle class and upper class life that it once was in Europe and North America. Much more common is the business card. And "gentlemen's clubs" now typically means strip clubs in modern culture.
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- chrissnell 10y agoThese are still in use on some circles. When I was young, my parents sent me to a thing called Cotillion. It was a sort of evening camp for young people where we learned table manners, ballroom dancing, and ettiquite. Calling cards were part of the deal. A proper host had a special tray for them near the entrance for people to leave theirs.