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Thank you. I'd love a TL;DR for every news article please ;)

by free2rhyme214 10y ago

vacri 10y ago
... it's literally the second sentence of the article.
- stevenh 10y ago
  Malicious advertisements are a much bigger pain in the ass to deal with on mobile than on desktop. I avoid clicking links on my phone whenever I can. This is one reason why I prefer to rely on summaries in the comment section whenever possible. Another nice quality of comment sections is that intelligent people have often performed all of the mental labor of finding the meat of the article and discarding the rest. Why should a hundred people repeat that same labor if one guy did it for us already? Also, even if the second sentence works as a TLDR of the entire article, you'd still have to waste time reading the entire article before concluding that. Reading the entire article often isn't even possible on mobile, in my experience. They keep loading new ads for minutes which rearrange the page layout or crash the mobile browser altogether. Sometimes an ad you swipe past goes through as if it were a tap, then you have to decide whether to tap the back arrow and waste 30 seconds waiting for the page layout to stabilize so you can scroll to find your spot again. Often they even load malicious scripts which redirect you to a fake "you have a virus" page out of nowhere and hijack the back button to prevent you from returning to your reading. And yes, it's always something posted to HN that puts me through this, as I don't browse other sites on my phone due to the even larger chance that any of those things might happen to me on those sites. I felt I should say something because the smug sense of superiority oozing through your condescending ellipsis as well as your sassy use of "literally" led me to believe that you were completely unaware that there are reasons other than willful ignorance for why people would avoid reading the actual article.
  - CPLX 10y ago
    Too long. Didn't read.
    - DrScump 10y ago
      STL;DR: Bad for HI ID ME NM.
  - vacri 10y ago
    > you'd still have to waste time reading the entire article Fuck twitter and what it's done to people. You say you don't want to 'waste time reading' and then chide me that 'there's reasons other than willful ignorance'. No, you're willfully ignorant. Chide me all you want about smugness and superiority, but you're the one who thinks all they need to know about a topic is a one-sentence summary. When you just consume TL;DRs, you miss all the nuance. You also miss additional and contextual information. Not to mention that TL;DRs are also often wrong or misleading.
    - dang 10y ago
      Personal attacks will get you banned from Hacker News. We've warned you about incivility in comments before. It's particularly bad when it discredits an otherwise good point.
      - vacri 10y ago
        Dan, it's hard to take this kind of criticism when you don't also warn the parent commentor, who was the first in this thread to make thing personal, and has a history himself of attacking people.
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        free2rhyme214 10y ago
        I made a simple one liner and you don't even know me. Nice work re-directing the blame.
        dang 10y ago
        You're right, that was bad and I've put in a scolding above. We don't come close to seeing all the comments—I glanced at that one last night but didn't see the egregious bit. When you notice a bad post that hasn't gotten moderated on HN, the likeliest explanation is that we haven't seen it yet. On the other hand, 'they started it' isn't a valid reason to be mean in comments here. It always feels like the other person started it. That's a recipe for the downward spiral we're all trying to stave off.
  - dang 10y ago
    > smug sense of superiority oozing through your condescending Your comments have been breaking HN's civility rule. We ban users that do this, so please don't do it any more. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
dang 10y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13953907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13953907 and marked it off-topic.
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- free2rhyme214 10y ago
  Thanks

Thank you. I'd love a TL;DR for every news article please ;)

vacri 10y ago

... it's literally the second sentence of the article.

stevenh 10y ago
Malicious advertisements are a much bigger pain in the ass to deal with on mobile than on desktop. I avoid clicking links on my phone whenever I can. This is one reason why I prefer to rely on summaries in the comment section whenever possible. Another nice quality of comment sections is that intelligent people have often performed all of the mental labor of finding the meat of the article and discarding the rest. Why should a hundred people repeat that same labor if one guy did it for us already? Also, even if the second sentence works as a TLDR of the entire article, you'd still have to waste time reading the entire article before concluding that. Reading the entire article often isn't even possible on mobile, in my experience. They keep loading new ads for minutes which rearrange the page layout or crash the mobile browser altogether. Sometimes an ad you swipe past goes through as if it were a tap, then you have to decide whether to tap the back arrow and waste 30 seconds waiting for the page layout to stabilize so you can scroll to find your spot again. Often they even load malicious scripts which redirect you to a fake "you have a virus" page out of nowhere and hijack the back button to prevent you from returning to your reading. And yes, it's always something posted to HN that puts me through this, as I don't browse other sites on my phone due to the even larger chance that any of those things might happen to me on those sites. I felt I should say something because the smug sense of superiority oozing through your condescending ellipsis as well as your sassy use of "literally" led me to believe that you were completely unaware that there are reasons other than willful ignorance for why people would avoid reading the actual article.
- CPLX 10y ago
  Too long. Didn't read.
  - DrScump 10y ago
    STL;DR: Bad for HI ID ME NM.
- vacri 10y ago
  > you'd still have to waste time reading the entire article Fuck twitter and what it's done to people. You say you don't want to 'waste time reading' and then chide me that 'there's reasons other than willful ignorance'. No, you're willfully ignorant. Chide me all you want about smugness and superiority, but you're the one who thinks all they need to know about a topic is a one-sentence summary. When you just consume TL;DRs, you miss all the nuance. You also miss additional and contextual information. Not to mention that TL;DRs are also often wrong or misleading.
  - dang 10y ago
    Personal attacks will get you banned from Hacker News. We've warned you about incivility in comments before. It's particularly bad when it discredits an otherwise good point.
    - vacri 10y ago
      Dan, it's hard to take this kind of criticism when you don't also warn the parent commentor, who was the first in this thread to make thing personal, and has a history himself of attacking people.
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      - free2rhyme214 10y ago
        I made a simple one liner and you don't even know me. Nice work re-directing the blame.
      - dang 10y ago
        You're right, that was bad and I've put in a scolding above. We don't come close to seeing all the comments—I glanced at that one last night but didn't see the egregious bit. When you notice a bad post that hasn't gotten moderated on HN, the likeliest explanation is that we haven't seen it yet. On the other hand, 'they started it' isn't a valid reason to be mean in comments here. It always feels like the other person started it. That's a recipe for the downward spiral we're all trying to stave off.
- dang 10y ago
  > smug sense of superiority oozing through your condescending Your comments have been breaking HN's civility rule. We ban users that do this, so please don't do it any more. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

dang 10y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13953907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13953907 and marked it off-topic.

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free2rhyme214 10y ago
Thanks