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Another brilliant Trump move.

dahdum 10y ago
Did Trump really think it would pass though? I figured he pushed the vote knowing it'd likely fail so he could move on to tax breaks. He then "tried", and Ryan / Freedom Caucus takes the fall in the midterms.
- burkaman 10y ago
  It doesn't really make sense to invest so much time into promoting the bill if this was the plan, though. He claimed to be personally calling hundreds of representatives, threatened those planning to vote against it, had Spicer guarantee its passage, etc. I don't know if Trump thought it would pass, but he certainly gave lots of signals that he wanted it to and was taking responsibility for it.
  - LyndsySimon 10y ago
    He appeared to be pushing hard on it, but even as someone who voted for him I don't trust the perception of what he's doing. He may have been actively trying to get this bill passed, but it seems at least as likely to me that he merely intended to be seen as doing so.
    - dahdum 10y ago
      He absolutely had to be seen as pushing for it, even if he realized that many millions losing coverage would hurt him deeply in 2020. Right now healthcare is shelved and the far right reps lose steam, having failed to work with their own party and a President far more popular with their constituents than they are. Honestly I don't think he care whether it passed or not. He's not playing the game we see.
      - dragonwriter 10y ago
        > Right now healthcare is shelved and the far right reps lose steam, having failed to work with their own party and a President far more popular with their constituents than they are. Current polling data to support the claim that any far right Republicans are far less popular with their own constituents than Trump is would be welcome. Given his cratering approval numbers, including with Republicans, I kind of doubt that is true in general.
    - burkaman 10y ago
      I understand, but what is the benefit of appearing to support the bill if he knew it would fail?

Did Trump really think it would pass though? I figured he pushed the vote knowing it'd likely fail so he could move on to tax breaks. He then "tried", and Ryan / Freedom Caucus takes the fall in the midterms.

burkaman 10y ago
It doesn't really make sense to invest so much time into promoting the bill if this was the plan, though. He claimed to be personally calling hundreds of representatives, threatened those planning to vote against it, had Spicer guarantee its passage, etc. I don't know if Trump thought it would pass, but he certainly gave lots of signals that he wanted it to and was taking responsibility for it.
- LyndsySimon 10y ago
  He appeared to be pushing hard on it, but even as someone who voted for him I don't trust the perception of what he's doing. He may have been actively trying to get this bill passed, but it seems at least as likely to me that he merely intended to be seen as doing so.
  - dahdum 10y ago
    He absolutely had to be seen as pushing for it, even if he realized that many millions losing coverage would hurt him deeply in 2020. Right now healthcare is shelved and the far right reps lose steam, having failed to work with their own party and a President far more popular with their constituents than they are. Honestly I don't think he care whether it passed or not. He's not playing the game we see.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      > Right now healthcare is shelved and the far right reps lose steam, having failed to work with their own party and a President far more popular with their constituents than they are. Current polling data to support the claim that any far right Republicans are far less popular with their own constituents than Trump is would be welcome. Given his cratering approval numbers, including with Republicans, I kind of doubt that is true in general.
  - burkaman 10y ago
    I understand, but what is the benefit of appearing to support the bill if he knew it would fail?