> It is imperative we figure out a way to get it right, and the discussions of GMO or pesticides are frankly a distraction from this problem They contribute to

> It is imperative we figure out a way to get it right, and the discussions of GMO or pesticides are frankly a distraction from this problem They contribute to our contemporary vision of agriculture, which is intensive, mono specific, high yield, mechanized, subsidized, etc. Short term. GMO and pesticides optimize our current way of growing stuff but won't change it. I don't know about scaling progressively the permaculture ideal to world scale but it feels like a good ideal. I would not be shocked if a sustainable system would require us quadruple our effort (which is pretty much what third world is up to).