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> They make you do all the writing, editing, formatting and figure design for free Shouldn't research scientists be the ones who write? I mean, who else knows
by pen2l 10y ago
> They make you do all the writing, editing, formatting and figure design for free
Shouldn't research scientists be the ones who write? I mean, who else knows the intimate details about your experiments that need to be communicated to posterity? And, do they really make you do the formatting? My understanding is you basically just give them an easily readable pdf version of your paper... in standard double spaced 12 font arial, and when it gets accepted they are the ones who choose the pretty fonts (probably with Indesign) and revise your figures so they don't look crappy.
That said, I'll say one nice thing about the system (partly in the spirit of contrarianism, as hardly anyone has good things to say about top journals:)). If you really want to be published in a top journal, there are two routes: 1) make something really ground-breaking... and then you can even submit a crappily-formatted paper with ugly figures and you'll still get accepted -- and they'll make good figures for you! 2) have something decently good... make good figures, make sure you follow formatting guidelines to a tee and make everything as easy as possible for the editors, and then hope for the best. I think this situation is not too bad.
- Gatsky 10y agoObviously you write your own paper. The point is the journals profit from your work, yet they expect you to do everything for free. Then they charge your university's library a fortune so you can access your own paper. If someone wants to reuse a figure from your paper, which you made yourself, and represents data from publicly funded research on patients that donated their time and body for the betterment of society, the journal wants to charge $500. I've realised that scientists will put up with almost anything. You have to be that way, otherwise you won't last. But when Elsevier makes billions of dollars in profit, and the person that reviews the papers for them lives in a box subsisting on instant noodles with no job security, you have to ask some questions. We don't actually need Elsevier. If they disappeared tomorrow science would march on largely unperturbed. Elsevier needs the scientists, and bless them, they have found a way to put us to work for free and sell us the product at the same time.