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You might be right that reduced status for white males is causing them to suffer psychologically. They may also engage in harmful lifestyles that reduce their l

You might be right that reduced status for white males is causing them to suffer psychologically. They may also engage in harmful lifestyles that reduce their life expectancy. I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem, but we just need to accept that we're no longer automatically at the top of the heap. I similarly agree that the lack of work and easy ability to be idle is harming people's psyches. But this is a totally different problem.

coldtea 10y ago
>I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem, but we just need to accept that we're no longer automatically at the top of the heap. Not an American, not a horse in the white males losing their status race, etc. So don't particularly care for the weaselly "frame his sending this link as racism/white anger" angle ("I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem"). The issue pointed to is increased unemployment and scarce of blue collar jobs. It takes some twist it to turn it into some "reduced status for white people" problem in the sense of racist rhetoric. In fact it's a totally irrelevant reading, if not purposefully bad. Reduced status as pertaining to white vs other races is irrelevant to whites losing their blue collar jobs. Whites could be getting less unemployment and still lose their status as superior to other races in American society, or they could lose their jobs and still retain their racist/top-of-the-heap status (and in fact racism often increases when unemployment rises -- just ask the Weimar republic. Germans were never poorer, but they sure increased their "top of the heap" status over jews). And of course it's not just for white people -- it's just the demographic the research focused on. As if blacks for example have no issues with lack of blue collar jobs and lack of degrees (two things mentioned in the article). It's just that for blacks, premature deaths like mentioned in the article (and worse) have always been common, and nobody bats an eye. I'm merely pointing something your "we're winning vs decades past" idea forgot, and which affects tons of people.
- yummyfajitas 10y ago
  Actually no, the the upward trend in mortality is primarily a white people problem. Mid life mortality has significantly decreased for blacks and hispanics. http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/5FB2/production/_86489442_mortalitytwoweb.jpg http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/5FB2/production/_... You seem to be focusing on whites when they are the exception. Weird. I'm also not sure why you are discussing a lack of jobs now. Wasn't the original topic that we work too hard? And what evidence do you have that we lack jobs? Given that virtually all of your factual claims have been disproven, I think you need to offer some evidence before I take this seriously.

coldtea 10y ago

>I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem, but we just need to accept that we're no longer automatically at the top of the heap. Not an American, not a horse in the white males losing their status race, etc. So don't particularly care for the weaselly "frame his sending this link as racism/white anger" angle ("I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem"). The issue pointed to is increased unemployment and scarce of blue collar jobs. It takes some twist it to turn it into some "reduced status for white people" problem in the sense of racist rhetoric. In fact it's a totally irrelevant reading, if not purposefully bad. Reduced status as pertaining to white vs other races is irrelevant to whites losing their blue collar jobs. Whites could be getting less unemployment and still lose their status as superior to other races in American society, or they could lose their jobs and still retain their racist/top-of-the-heap status (and in fact racism often increases when unemployment rises -- just ask the Weimar republic. Germans were never poorer, but they sure increased their "top of the heap" status over jews). And of course it's not just for white people -- it's just the demographic the research focused on. As if blacks for example have no issues with lack of blue collar jobs and lack of degrees (two things mentioned in the article). It's just that for blacks, premature deaths like mentioned in the article (and worse) have always been common, and nobody bats an eye. I'm merely pointing something your "we're winning vs decades past" idea forgot, and which affects tons of people.

yummyfajitas 10y ago
Actually no, the the upward trend in mortality is primarily a white people problem. Mid life mortality has significantly decreased for blacks and hispanics. http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/5FB2/production/_86489442_mortalitytwoweb.jpg http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/5FB2/production/_... You seem to be focusing on whites when they are the exception. Weird. I'm also not sure why you are discussing a lack of jobs now. Wasn't the original topic that we work too hard? And what evidence do you have that we lack jobs? Given that virtually all of your factual claims have been disproven, I think you need to offer some evidence before I take this seriously.