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> Er, the context of this subthread is about people who already do experiment on themselves. People in the "nootropics community." There are a lot of them They
by evgen 10y ago
> Er, the context of this subthread is about people who already do experiment on themselves. People in the "nootropics community." There are a lot of them
They are not "experimenting" on themselves, they are simply engaging in a chemically-mediated attempt at wish fulfillment. There are few, if any, actual experimentation protocols being used and whenever I check out the scene to see if it is any better Instill find a random collection of anecdotes and poorly gathered "data points." I see no baseline data, no blinding or controls, the worst sorts of confirmation bias in data gathering and assessment, and people entering these "experiments" with a random selection of pre-exisiting conditions for which they are attempting self-medication. This is just an exercise in generating noise, not data.
- traek 10y agoYes, that is exactly why it was proposed by ~derefr to > [offer] "safe self-experimentation sites", complete with medical researchers + monitoring equipment to capture data, and nurses to help with bad reactions? That's what this whole subthread is about.
- evgen 10y agoThe point is that there would be no useful data captured at such sites beyond 'what is the LD50 of this random shit someone ordered from China?' Such a site would possibly increase safety for individuals, but not much else.