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Bullshit. The outcome for my state was decided before I got to the polling place. The outcome of the election is specifically designed to value my vote as les

Bullshit. The outcome for my state was decided before I got to the polling place. The outcome of the election is specifically designed to value my vote as less than that of someone in a smaller, rural state. The candidates I got to vote for were selected for me, through corruption and subterfuge. I've read the emails of party officials working together to foment hatred between their own supporters out of whole cloth. So, no, even though I voted, my vote didn't count. Never counted.

burkaman 10y ago
Your state was "decided" by everyone else voting. Your vote counts as much as everyone else's vote in your state. Complaining that your vote doesn't count because most people in your district or state disagree with you doesn't make sense. Yes, the two party system and electoral college should be fixed. Changing the voting system will probably involve people voting to change it.
coldpie 10y ago
I understand and agree with the thoughts behind your argument. My city, Saint Paul, implemented ranked choice voting a couple years ago and I'm thrilled about it. Stay active, not bitter. But at the end of the day what matters is who gets out to vote. Your state's outcome was decided not by fate, but by people who vote. Count yourself among them.
- WalterSear 10y ago
  >But at the end of the day what matters is who gets out to vote. I'm afraid that this sounds to me too much like the political equivalent of 'do what you love and the money will follow'; based in faith, rather than evidence.
  - coldpie 10y ago
    While I disagree, I think your position on the presidential election is valid. Even taking your position, it is still very important to vote for downticket races, which are both not hindered by the EC system and tend to be much closer races since they are so regional. This is also more relevant to the article at hand: congress is passing these laws, not the president. So even if your vote doesn't matter for the president, please do vote for the other offices.

burkaman 10y ago

Your state was "decided" by everyone else voting. Your vote counts as much as everyone else's vote in your state. Complaining that your vote doesn't count because most people in your district or state disagree with you doesn't make sense. Yes, the two party system and electoral college should be fixed. Changing the voting system will probably involve people voting to change it.

coldpie 10y ago

I understand and agree with the thoughts behind your argument. My city, Saint Paul, implemented ranked choice voting a couple years ago and I'm thrilled about it. Stay active, not bitter. But at the end of the day what matters is who gets out to vote. Your state's outcome was decided not by fate, but by people who vote. Count yourself among them.

WalterSear 10y ago
>But at the end of the day what matters is who gets out to vote. I'm afraid that this sounds to me too much like the political equivalent of 'do what you love and the money will follow'; based in faith, rather than evidence.
- coldpie 10y ago
  While I disagree, I think your position on the presidential election is valid. Even taking your position, it is still very important to vote for downticket races, which are both not hindered by the EC system and tend to be much closer races since they are so regional. This is also more relevant to the article at hand: congress is passing these laws, not the president. So even if your vote doesn't matter for the president, please do vote for the other offices.