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> 13" HiDPI display Hope it doesn't need fractional DPI scaling, because as far as I know there is no desktop on Linux that supports it, while Windows has supp

> 13" HiDPI display Hope it doesn't need fractional DPI scaling, because as far as I know there is no desktop on Linux that supports it, while Windows has supported it for years.

jethro_tell 10y ago
I thought gnome was able to do this alright in recent releases but I haven't used it for a while.
- gurkendoktor 10y ago
  No, Gnome only supports integer scaling for UI (@1x, @2x, @3x). I don't know why they don't support fractional downscaling from @2x like Apple does. I guess nobody expected 13" 1080p laptops and 27" 4K screens seem to become mainstream :(
dom0 10y ago
"Fractional scaling" (I assume you mean e.g. 160 DPI instead of 200 DPI) is no problem even with the older KDE version from F23, just a bit finicky to get started up - but when it runs, it works. Gtk on the other hand seems (seemed? - I don't bother to check regularly) to be stuck at 100 %, 200 %, 300 %, ...
- bwat49 10y ago
  With gnome 3 you can install gnome tweak tool and just set the text scaling to 120-130%. Works very well on my 13 inch 1080p display
  - symlinkk 10y ago
    That doesn't scale the UI. And it doesn't even scale the text for many third party apps like Sublime Text, Firefox, and IntelliJ. Windows handles this perfectly.
trendia 10y ago
You can achieve fractional scaling by first setting Gnome hidpi to an integer value and then adjusting the screen with xrandr [0]. It's not great, but it works. Source: I have a 4K display and no problems [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#GNOME https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#GNOME
- symlinkk 10y ago
  Yes I'm aware of that, it's a poor "solution" that's more like a hack. It renders everything at twice the resolution you need and then scales it down, which is awful for battery life on laptops. And it's difficult to do, barely anyone understands what a command like this does: xrandr --output eDP-1 --auto --output HDMI-1 --auto --panning 3840x2160+3840+0 --scale 2x2 --right-of eDP-1
cassidyjames 10y ago
System76 employee (and HiDPI... enthusiast?) here! It does not need non-integer scaling. It's 3200x1800, which is like 1600x900 pixel-doubled. A great resolution for that physical size. This is also why you don't hear us talking about "4K" on that display, because that'd actually be too many pixels and require non-integer scaling for a usable UI.
- symlinkk 10y ago
  Glad you guys have thought this through. I bought a Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition in 2015 that was marketed as a perfect Linux laptop and came with Ubuntu preinstalled. It had a 13.3" screen with a resolution of 1080p, so the text and UI was almost unusable. Two years later, there's still no fix.

> 13" HiDPI display Hope it doesn't need fractional DPI scaling, because as far as I know there is no desktop on Linux that supports it, while Windows has supported it for years.

jethro_tell 10y ago

I thought gnome was able to do this alright in recent releases but I haven't used it for a while.

gurkendoktor 10y ago
No, Gnome only supports integer scaling for UI (@1x, @2x, @3x). I don't know why they don't support fractional downscaling from @2x like Apple does. I guess nobody expected 13" 1080p laptops and 27" 4K screens seem to become mainstream :(

dom0 10y ago

"Fractional scaling" (I assume you mean e.g. 160 DPI instead of 200 DPI) is no problem even with the older KDE version from F23, just a bit finicky to get started up - but when it runs, it works. Gtk on the other hand seems (seemed? - I don't bother to check regularly) to be stuck at 100 %, 200 %, 300 %, ...

bwat49 10y ago
With gnome 3 you can install gnome tweak tool and just set the text scaling to 120-130%. Works very well on my 13 inch 1080p display
- symlinkk 10y ago
  That doesn't scale the UI. And it doesn't even scale the text for many third party apps like Sublime Text, Firefox, and IntelliJ. Windows handles this perfectly.

trendia 10y ago

You can achieve fractional scaling by first setting Gnome hidpi to an integer value and then adjusting the screen with xrandr [0]. It's not great, but it works. Source: I have a 4K display and no problems [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#GNOME https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#GNOME

symlinkk 10y ago
Yes I'm aware of that, it's a poor "solution" that's more like a hack. It renders everything at twice the resolution you need and then scales it down, which is awful for battery life on laptops. And it's difficult to do, barely anyone understands what a command like this does: xrandr --output eDP-1 --auto --output HDMI-1 --auto --panning 3840x2160+3840+0 --scale 2x2 --right-of eDP-1

cassidyjames 10y ago

System76 employee (and HiDPI... enthusiast?) here! It does not need non-integer scaling. It's 3200x1800, which is like 1600x900 pixel-doubled. A great resolution for that physical size. This is also why you don't hear us talking about "4K" on that display, because that'd actually be too many pixels and require non-integer scaling for a usable UI.

symlinkk 10y ago
Glad you guys have thought this through. I bought a Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition in 2015 that was marketed as a perfect Linux laptop and came with Ubuntu preinstalled. It had a 13.3" screen with a resolution of 1080p, so the text and UI was almost unusable. Two years later, there's still no fix.