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I found a solution to the 3rd example problem on Automation and Unemployment : http://bit.ly/2nbHqX3 http://bit.ly/2nbHqX3

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callmeed 10y ago
Much easier to manage than UBI. I see a bright future ahead.
vijucat 10y ago
ED-209 wants to have a word with Robocop + I decreased frustration and societal unrest by massively funding Entertainment: http://bit.ly/2mwwO7T http://bit.ly/2mwwO7T Basically, "Running Man" was entertainment / fiction when I read it as a kid, and it will be a documentary by the time I'm dead.
- vpribish 10y ago
  I love it! Now if we can put everyone to work as extras in all that entertainment... Clearly we need to encourage automation in the real economy and ban it in entertainment. This tool does what it says: the conversation goes up a notch because the feedback effects are part of the shared context so you don't get distracted talking about them one-by-one to the exclusion of the systemic effects. amazing how easy it was to make unstable/chaotic systems, Robocop will be busy
- smlacy 10y ago
  Just adding one more link with a negative relationship between Political Unrest and Profits makes this much more interesting! https://goo.gl/lL7EvY https://goo.gl/lL7EvY
Geee 10y ago
To be realistic, more automation does not lead to "more profit", because of competition. But, this is really great tool to actually visualize these arguments.
- prodikl 10y ago
  yeah, visualizing lets us move the argument to a more focused context. we could examine and say, lets figure out if "more profit" really does lead to "more tax" money, etc
- TuringTest 10y ago
  http://bit.ly/2obNrlR http://bit.ly/2obNrlR
  - Geee 10y ago
    Great. Automation also reduces prices, which makes unemployment more attractive. Eventually prices will be negative (automation produces more than anyone can consume).
    - digi_owl 10y ago
      Thus we have marketing and credit cards...
vincentchu 10y ago
Mine is similar, but uses drugs: http://bit.ly/2nW8GbR http://bit.ly/2nW8GbR
- calebm 10y ago
  It's a Brave New World!
- ryan-allen 10y ago
  This thread is extremely entertaining!
- TuringTest 10y ago
  I've got one surprisingly efficient, using fake jobs. http://bit.ly/2n0CqDv http://bit.ly/2n0CqDv Makes you wonder...
  - devcpp 10y ago
    We've been doing it for decades.
    - vog 10y ago
      Yes, these jobs are part of the Tertiary Sector [1], but maybe we should open up a Quaternary Sector for them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_sector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_sector
digi_owl 10y ago
Need an extra + from robocop to "more profits". After all, you can lease the robocop to the government. Or maybe just replace tax with robocop and really go to town.

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callmeed 10y ago

Much easier to manage than UBI. I see a bright future ahead.

vijucat 10y ago

ED-209 wants to have a word with Robocop + I decreased frustration and societal unrest by massively funding Entertainment: http://bit.ly/2mwwO7T http://bit.ly/2mwwO7T Basically, "Running Man" was entertainment / fiction when I read it as a kid, and it will be a documentary by the time I'm dead.

vpribish 10y ago
I love it! Now if we can put everyone to work as extras in all that entertainment... Clearly we need to encourage automation in the real economy and ban it in entertainment. This tool does what it says: the conversation goes up a notch because the feedback effects are part of the shared context so you don't get distracted talking about them one-by-one to the exclusion of the systemic effects. amazing how easy it was to make unstable/chaotic systems, Robocop will be busy
smlacy 10y ago
Just adding one more link with a negative relationship between Political Unrest and Profits makes this much more interesting! https://goo.gl/lL7EvY https://goo.gl/lL7EvY

Geee 10y ago

To be realistic, more automation does not lead to "more profit", because of competition. But, this is really great tool to actually visualize these arguments.

prodikl 10y ago
yeah, visualizing lets us move the argument to a more focused context. we could examine and say, lets figure out if "more profit" really does lead to "more tax" money, etc
TuringTest 10y ago
http://bit.ly/2obNrlR http://bit.ly/2obNrlR
- Geee 10y ago
  Great. Automation also reduces prices, which makes unemployment more attractive. Eventually prices will be negative (automation produces more than anyone can consume).
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    Thus we have marketing and credit cards...

vincentchu 10y ago

Mine is similar, but uses drugs: http://bit.ly/2nW8GbR http://bit.ly/2nW8GbR

calebm 10y ago
It's a Brave New World!
ryan-allen 10y ago
This thread is extremely entertaining!
TuringTest 10y ago
I've got one surprisingly efficient, using fake jobs. http://bit.ly/2n0CqDv http://bit.ly/2n0CqDv Makes you wonder...
- devcpp 10y ago
  We've been doing it for decades.
  - vog 10y ago
    Yes, these jobs are part of the Tertiary Sector [1], but maybe we should open up a Quaternary Sector for them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_sector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_sector

digi_owl 10y ago

Need an extra + from robocop to "more profits". After all, you can lease the robocop to the government. Or maybe just replace tax with robocop and really go to town.