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And that is OK for Notes or todo app, but text editor that is used by developers who tend to customize it with plugins and whatnot I think that is not viable op

And that is OK for Notes or todo app, but text editor that is used by developers who tend to customize it with plugins and whatnot I think that is not viable option. But that's just my personal preference, maybe I am wrong...

paulddraper 10y ago
My two cents: you get what you pay for in your IDE.
- kittenmittens 10y ago
  Would you mind giving some examples, mostly for the higher tier of "paying".
- randallsquared 10y ago
  That depends strongly on the IDE and the user. I used to pay Jetbrains every month, but last July I noticed that I preferred VS Code to PHPStorm for essentially everything, and stopped my subscription and uninstalled it.
- cr0sh 10y ago
  I pay a lot of money for my copy of IntelliJ. ...indexing... ...as I was saying...
randiantech 10y ago
VS Code IS a viable option. I use it daily basis and works great.
- YCode 10y ago
  Seriously, coming from Visual Studio VSCode is a breeze of fresh performant air. Anecdotally I was able to create the cursor problem by minimizing/showing the VSCode window while viewing CPU usage DESC in task manager, but the effect was only ~2% usage for me (i7 processor). If one invisible (from a UX perspective) bug is VSCode's big performance problem then I'll gladly let it eat away at 2% of my CPU until it's fixed.
  - DonHopkins 10y ago
    Plus the fact that it's actually possible to use the profiler and debugger built into VSCode to profile and reflect upon itself, then drill down into its own live data structures, source code and css to discover and fix what was slowing it down. I once wrote a visual PostScript debugger for NeWS, which I primarily used for debugging itself. [1] [1] http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/97 http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/97 The PSIBER Space Deck is a programming tool that lets you graphically display, manipulate, and navigate the many PostScript data structures, programs, and processes living in the virtual memory space of NeWS. The Network extensible Window System (NeWS) is a multitasking object oriented PostScript programming environment. NeWS programs and data structures make up the window system kernel, the user interface toolkit, and even entire applications. The PSIBER Space Deck is one such application, written entirely in PostScript, the result of an experiment in using a graphical programming environment to construct an interactive visual user interface to itself.
- Philipp__ 10y ago
  I tried it too... Wasn't satisfied with performances. I used to install Atom every 2,3 months, when VSCode got released I then tried installing it every few months in place of Atom. I still do, but I always uninstall after few hours of using it. It has many good ideas implemented well, but still not worth switching and sacrificing all of the performance for nice git and debugging interface.
  - lexicality 10y ago
    What's too slow for you? I recently switched to it from Vim running in a console (+ a bunch of plugins for IDE features) and it's actually more performant. It doesn't freeze when I run ctrl-p for one thing.
  - Philipp__ 10y ago
    Well I don't run any plugins in (neo)Vim besides colorscheme, FZF and neomake, and I run neovim inside Terminal.app since it is much faster than iTerm2. One situation, I open 5k LOC file, scroll to the middle and bam colors are there everything was instant. In VSCode I open same file, slight delay, opens the tab, I click on middle of side codetree, slight delay, and few seconds for colors to draw. This is just one example. And there are those slight delays all over the place that I don't have with sublime, emacs or vim.
  - abritinthebay 10y ago
    VS Code is faster than Atom (by... a lot) tho? Especially with large files, but just in general. Speed is the main reason I can't stay using Atom for more than a few hours. It's awful. VS Code is snappier than Sublime Text ffs...
    - Philipp__ 10y ago
      Nope, it's not snappier than Sublime.
      - abritinthebay 10y ago
        shrugs Is for me. Not by a lot, and not in every case, but overall? Is for me.
orf 10y ago
> but text editor that is used by developers who tend to customize it with plugins and whatnot... There are a huge number of plugins for VS code. It's built to be plugin-centric - most functionality is a plugin.

paulddraper 10y ago

My two cents: you get what you pay for in your IDE.

kittenmittens 10y ago
Would you mind giving some examples, mostly for the higher tier of "paying".
randallsquared 10y ago
That depends strongly on the IDE and the user. I used to pay Jetbrains every month, but last July I noticed that I preferred VS Code to PHPStorm for essentially everything, and stopped my subscription and uninstalled it.
cr0sh 10y ago
I pay a lot of money for my copy of IntelliJ. ...indexing... ...as I was saying...

randiantech 10y ago

VS Code IS a viable option. I use it daily basis and works great.

YCode 10y ago
Seriously, coming from Visual Studio VSCode is a breeze of fresh performant air. Anecdotally I was able to create the cursor problem by minimizing/showing the VSCode window while viewing CPU usage DESC in task manager, but the effect was only ~2% usage for me (i7 processor). If one invisible (from a UX perspective) bug is VSCode's big performance problem then I'll gladly let it eat away at 2% of my CPU until it's fixed.
- DonHopkins 10y ago
  Plus the fact that it's actually possible to use the profiler and debugger built into VSCode to profile and reflect upon itself, then drill down into its own live data structures, source code and css to discover and fix what was slowing it down. I once wrote a visual PostScript debugger for NeWS, which I primarily used for debugging itself. [1] [1] http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/97 http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/97 The PSIBER Space Deck is a programming tool that lets you graphically display, manipulate, and navigate the many PostScript data structures, programs, and processes living in the virtual memory space of NeWS. The Network extensible Window System (NeWS) is a multitasking object oriented PostScript programming environment. NeWS programs and data structures make up the window system kernel, the user interface toolkit, and even entire applications. The PSIBER Space Deck is one such application, written entirely in PostScript, the result of an experiment in using a graphical programming environment to construct an interactive visual user interface to itself.
Philipp__ 10y ago
I tried it too... Wasn't satisfied with performances. I used to install Atom every 2,3 months, when VSCode got released I then tried installing it every few months in place of Atom. I still do, but I always uninstall after few hours of using it. It has many good ideas implemented well, but still not worth switching and sacrificing all of the performance for nice git and debugging interface.
- lexicality 10y ago
  What's too slow for you? I recently switched to it from Vim running in a console (+ a bunch of plugins for IDE features) and it's actually more performant. It doesn't freeze when I run ctrl-p for one thing.
- Philipp__ 10y ago
  Well I don't run any plugins in (neo)Vim besides colorscheme, FZF and neomake, and I run neovim inside Terminal.app since it is much faster than iTerm2. One situation, I open 5k LOC file, scroll to the middle and bam colors are there everything was instant. In VSCode I open same file, slight delay, opens the tab, I click on middle of side codetree, slight delay, and few seconds for colors to draw. This is just one example. And there are those slight delays all over the place that I don't have with sublime, emacs or vim.
- abritinthebay 10y ago
  VS Code is faster than Atom (by... a lot) tho? Especially with large files, but just in general. Speed is the main reason I can't stay using Atom for more than a few hours. It's awful. VS Code is snappier than Sublime Text ffs...
  - Philipp__ 10y ago
    Nope, it's not snappier than Sublime.
    - abritinthebay 10y ago
      shrugs Is for me. Not by a lot, and not in every case, but overall? Is for me.

orf 10y ago

> but text editor that is used by developers who tend to customize it with plugins and whatnot... There are a huge number of plugins for VS code. It's built to be plugin-centric - most functionality is a plugin.