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Killing abortion providers or bombing a clinic explicitly in the name of some version of Christianity are examples of Christian terrorism, though, which have ha

by kaitai 10y ago

Killing abortion providers or bombing a clinic explicitly in the name of some version of Christianity are examples of Christian terrorism, though, which have happened in the US recently. These are not acts that are incidental to the religious beliefs of the individuals perpetrating them. It's not anti-Christian to recognize patterns. You can't be a clinic that provides reproductive health services (even without abortions!) without getting threats, and you definitely can't provide abortions without getting death threats or even getting killed. If you look at mass killings in the US, the majority of major attacks in the US have been done by men who are white and nominally Christian, falling into the broad categories of "Christianity-motivated" or "bitter at life, esp. the military or women". Check out a list of US shootings at http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-m... for instance. Full disclosure: I'm some version of Christian too, but I feel quite threatened by other Christians who want to enforce their versions of morality upon me by law. I do not feel threatened by Sharia. When I got some testing done on my fetus at 20 weeks and was faced with a possible, but thankfully irrelevant, choice of being forced to carry a terminally ill or dead kid to term or not, it wasn't Muslims forcing me to make that choice.

senior_james 10y ago
"Killing abortion providers or bombing a clinic explicitly in the name of some version of Christianity are examples of Christian terrorism" I can think of this happening once or twice in the last 5 years. The volume of Muslim attacks is much higher. Both are wrong. "You can't be a clinic that provides reproductive health services (even without abortions!) without getting threats, and you definitely can't provide abortions without getting death threats or even getting killed." Abortion is legal in the United states and murders of clinic workers aren't really common. Try being a vocal Trump supporter in the US. You will get death threats too. However, people aren't actually carrying it out. "bitter at life, esp. the military or women" As I said, statistically, the United states has a large percentage of Christians (and people that are white), which means a large percentage of any murders are going to be white and Christian. However, they were not screaming "Jesus is great" during the murders nor trying to create a Christian state where anyone practicing another religion us murdered. "I do not feel threatened by Sharia." You don't feel threatened because you don't have to live under the rule of it. If we were under Sharia law, I don't think we would even be having this conversation. The people against it are trying to save everyone else from a terrible life. "it wasn't Muslims forcing me to make that choice." I think you need to learn more about Islam. Abortion is completely illegal in all Muslim countries and if you actually talk to someone that is not even that much of a fundamentalist, they are against abortion. Regardless of the religion, I don't want to be ruled by a mythical person that lived 2000 years ago with little regard to science.

by kaitai 10y ago

senior_james 10y ago

"Killing abortion providers or bombing a clinic explicitly in the name of some version of Christianity are examples of Christian terrorism" I can think of this happening once or twice in the last 5 years. The volume of Muslim attacks is much higher. Both are wrong. "You can't be a clinic that provides reproductive health services (even without abortions!) without getting threats, and you definitely can't provide abortions without getting death threats or even getting killed." Abortion is legal in the United states and murders of clinic workers aren't really common. Try being a vocal Trump supporter in the US. You will get death threats too. However, people aren't actually carrying it out. "bitter at life, esp. the military or women" As I said, statistically, the United states has a large percentage of Christians (and people that are white), which means a large percentage of any murders are going to be white and Christian. However, they were not screaming "Jesus is great" during the murders nor trying to create a Christian state where anyone practicing another religion us murdered. "I do not feel threatened by Sharia." You don't feel threatened because you don't have to live under the rule of it. If we were under Sharia law, I don't think we would even be having this conversation. The people against it are trying to save everyone else from a terrible life. "it wasn't Muslims forcing me to make that choice." I think you need to learn more about Islam. Abortion is completely illegal in all Muslim countries and if you actually talk to someone that is not even that much of a fundamentalist, they are against abortion. Regardless of the religion, I don't want to be ruled by a mythical person that lived 2000 years ago with little regard to science.