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On the same day London is attacked, Turkey says that Europe 'will not walk safely on the streets': http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-erdogan

• jacquesm 10y ago
  Let's just say that we're not impressed. And plenty of people of Turkish origin living in European countries aren't impressed either. Erdogan is working hard to undo approximately 80 years of Turkish progress. He may succeed in Turkey, but I highly doubt he will succeed to destabilize the rest of Europe or to make good on his threats of using Turkish citizens that have moved abroad as some kind of fifth column. He's mostly playing to a local audience with statements like that and likes to depict himself as the strong man in a struggle that is mostly initiated by Erdogan himself. I feel pretty safe on the streets here. Much safer than I would feel in Ankara or Istanbul, and much safer than plenty of Turks feel in their own country.
• tunocina 10y ago
  Thank our spineless European leaders. I can't believe we are letting Muslim nations pull the strings here--how did we let this happen? It was usually the opposite.
  • notsofastmister 10y ago
    Thank our spineless Western leaders for committing war crimes in Yemen... From american white phosphorus weapons [0] to british cluster bombs [1]. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/09/19/saudi-arabia-appears-to-be-using-u-s-supplied-white-phosphorus-in-its-war-in-yemen/?utm_term=.086d22acf631 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/09/19... [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/saudis-dropped-british-cluster-bombs-in-yemen-fallon-tells-commons https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/saudis-dropped...
    • tunocina 10y ago
      Having done that does not mean our borders had to open for bitter, fighting age men.
      • jacquesm 10y ago
        It's a bit of a problem, but 'you break it, you own it' is a good rule. See also: Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt and a very large number of other places where proxy wars between western states and meddling in local affairs in order to gain the upper hand in veiled conflicts over resources have made the world a much worse place for a very large number of people.
        • tunocina 10y ago
          Our elites broke it, I don't understand why plain civilians like you have to own it. Why do you feel responsible for those wars? Why do you feel like you have to pay the toll for it? Honest questions.
          • jacquesm 10y ago
            Don't you get to vote where you live?
            • tunocina 10y ago
              I get to vote but, in democracy, we are a drop in the ocean. In any case what's done is done, and if we've already waged war on them, it makes no sense to open our borders to them because most of them are bitter at us and some of them want to and have succeeded in killing us in our own soil. It's simply a security issue. There are millions of Muslims now scattered everywhere in Europe, and these last attacks are simply the beginning. Now Erdogan can threaten us because he has a dormant army everywhere. And we let them in, like a trojan horse. (I'm European)
              • jacquesm 10y ago
• gkya 10y ago
  > Turkey says Please imagine 70million people saying something.