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That's why they're ditching not IE but windows altogether. Doesn't seem knee-jerk to me when you look at the security track record of the various platforms.

by moe 16y ago

desigooner 16y ago
It's simple economics as far as the malware/security track record goes. Since windows holds the most marketshare in OS business, most of the effort in terms of malware or virus creation is directed towards windows systems. It's been shown at Pwn2Own that Macs can be easier to break into vs. Windows esp. Vista onwards. If you were a hacker and you wanted that data, it wouldn't have stopped you if the target used Mac OSX ... you could just target some other unpublicized exploit. I mean all you need is Flash to do some damage.
Niten 16y ago
Yes, it does. Recent versions of Windows (Vista and especially 7) have had security track records at least on par with OS X and desktop Linux. Mac OS X hasn't been doing terribly well lately, and Apple is notoriously slow to patch known security flaws, e.g.: http://bit.ly/62bTNQ http://bit.ly/62bTNQ I'd provide a link to hard data, but for some reason Secunia's taken down their list of unpatched vulnerabilities in OS X (?!), even though they provide this data for most other operating systems, including Windows.
- moe 16y ago
  Sorry, but that simply doesn't matter. Case in point, OSX even had more security advisories published than windows for a while, yet the "experts" still mostly agree OSX is the safer platform; http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10444561-245.html?tag=rtcol;pop http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10444561-245.html?tag=rtco... There's a very simple reason: OSX has around 6% market share, Windows around 80%. Go figure which platform the kids are going to target for the time being. Also feel free to research on which platform the major, semi-automated botnets (Storm, Zeus) are running.
  - whatusername 16y ago
    >>which platform the major, semi-automated botnets (Storm, Zeus) are running. Let me guess - not Windows 7.

That's why they're ditching not IE but windows altogether. Doesn't seem knee-jerk to me when you look at the security track record of the various platforms.

by moe 16y ago

That's why they're ditching not IE but windows altogether. Doesn't seem knee-jerk to me when you look at the security track record of the various platforms.

desigooner 16y ago

It's simple economics as far as the malware/security track record goes. Since windows holds the most marketshare in OS business, most of the effort in terms of malware or virus creation is directed towards windows systems. It's been shown at Pwn2Own that Macs can be easier to break into vs. Windows esp. Vista onwards. If you were a hacker and you wanted that data, it wouldn't have stopped you if the target used Mac OSX ... you could just target some other unpublicized exploit. I mean all you need is Flash to do some damage.

Niten 16y ago

Yes, it does. Recent versions of Windows (Vista and especially 7) have had security track records at least on par with OS X and desktop Linux. Mac OS X hasn't been doing terribly well lately, and Apple is notoriously slow to patch known security flaws, e.g.: http://bit.ly/62bTNQ http://bit.ly/62bTNQ I'd provide a link to hard data, but for some reason Secunia's taken down their list of unpatched vulnerabilities in OS X (?!), even though they provide this data for most other operating systems, including Windows.

moe 16y ago
Sorry, but that simply doesn't matter. Case in point, OSX even had more security advisories published than windows for a while, yet the "experts" still mostly agree OSX is the safer platform; http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10444561-245.html?tag=rtcol;pop http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10444561-245.html?tag=rtco... There's a very simple reason: OSX has around 6% market share, Windows around 80%. Go figure which platform the kids are going to target for the time being. Also feel free to research on which platform the major, semi-automated botnets (Storm, Zeus) are running.
- whatusername 16y ago
  >>which platform the major, semi-automated botnets (Storm, Zeus) are running. Let me guess - not Windows 7.