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I think with open source and standards we lose control the moment things become too complex for a group of open source developers to develop. At this point you
by throw2016 10y ago
I think with open source and standards we lose control the moment things become too complex for a group of open source developers to develop. At this point you need funding, organized efforts or corporate backers who bring their own agendas. Or be on the sidelines for decades while the work is done incrementally like Linux.
For web browsers we have long passed that point. The level of complexity and ongoing effort rules out independent projects which means we are stuck with large corporate efforts like Chrome, Edge, Safari or token open ones like Firefox that trade on openness but are happy to collude with other browser makers to act against user interests.
With this kind of ecosystem its inevitable user interests or things like open web standards will be thrown under the bus when it has no benefits to the projects.
Mozilla has enough resources to take a stand against this or collaborate with orgs like EFF and try to rally users. It has certainly done that before, but nothing happened here. If Netflix wants to deliver DRM let them make their own app, there is no need to get browsers involved in any way.
Linux was never about convenience, it was and is about openness and users and developers have persevered for decades to get here. It would have been 'convenient' to stick to Windows at the outset but then there would be no Linux as we know it today.
- apostacy 10y agoI agree, but, I think that the reason that things got this bad in the first place was because we let them set the rules for what a web browser should be. Firefox was the first major browser that didn't include an email reader, a news reader, and all this other crap. I just wrote in a post a few minutes ago, about how broken Mozilla's design decisions are[1]. They are absolutely unwilling to step out from Google's shadow. Google now gets to decide what it means to be a web browser. And I remember when Microsoft was in that position. I honestly think it would be possible to unseat the one party system we have with web browsers. I wish I had the time to invest in it. If I could though, I think a great place to start would be to just abandon a lot of the crap that we don't need. Microsoft was bloating the standard with all sorts of crap, like css rules for transparency (done poorly), or changing the color of the scrollbars (which everyone abused on myspace). Firefox said no. I think the web is way too heavy. And I'm already used to seeing websites with lots of javascript stripped out. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13953226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13953226